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post Sep 4, 2004 - 12:24 AM
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a 99 205 celi GT-4 250hp turbo AWD or a 05 Neon SRT-4 230hp turbo? No mods.


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post Sep 5, 2004 - 11:37 PM
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No...the SRT4 will not win. I took my WRX when it was stock to race my friend's SRT4. The SRT4 I think is actually rated 230HP and 250ft/lb of torque and my Rex is 227HP and 217 ft/lb of torque. I raced him driving it twice and beat him by a car length each time. I then raced his car but against one of my friend's who is a very talented driver and he said he gave it all he had and I still won by half a carlength if not a little bit more.

The wheel spin on the SRT4 isnt the general issue...it's the wheel hop. The motor mounts are wretched and is normally one of the first things to be upgraded by the SRT4 owners that know what they're doing. My Rex beat that car and is rated at less HP and torque than the ST205. I say ST205.

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Good point on the gear ratios as well. The ST205 is geared for accelleration...but remember so is the SRT4. Remember it's claim to fame "The only car under $20,000 that can get to 60 mph in under 6 seconds." That's why it has so much torque. So in this particular instance, I think they are both geared relatively more toward accelleration so the comparison of gear ratios matters a bit less.

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Here's the link on the Car and Driver website that shows the upgrades the the 04 model year. http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?se...article_id=7871

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- ArizonaRed   what car would win at 1/4 mile?   Sep 4, 2004 - 12:24 AM
- - Hym3n   a) The Celica, you said it yourself.. it's mor...   Sep 4, 2004 - 12:47 AM
- - ArizonaRed   My GF is obsessed with neons and we were argueing ...   Sep 4, 2004 - 1:13 AM
- - drnovascotia   my money is on the Neon. less hp loss in FWD than ...   Sep 4, 2004 - 1:17 AM
- - shid   QUOTE (drnovascotia @ Sep 4, 2004 - 6:17 AM) my mo...   Sep 4, 2004 - 1:55 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (shid @ Sep 3, 2004 - 10:55 PM) QUOTE (drnov...   Sep 4, 2004 - 2:22 AM
- - Ryu3x16   QUOTE (drnovascotia @ Sep 3, 2004 - 11:17 PM) my m...   Sep 4, 2004 - 3:41 AM
- - uzthedentist   the gt4 would destroy it up to 60 but up to the li...   Sep 4, 2004 - 7:12 AM
- - Rjb23   Your kidding right? First off the gt4 would kill...   Sep 4, 2004 - 5:34 PM
- - Hym3n   QUOTE (Rjb23 @ Sep 4, 2004 - 4:34 PM) Your kidding...   Sep 4, 2004 - 5:42 PM
- - celicaspeed   neons suck ass!!!When you get in a neo...   Sep 4, 2004 - 5:47 PM
- - Rjb23   QUOTE (Hym3n @ Sep 4, 2004 - 10:42 PM) QUOTE (Rjb2...   Sep 4, 2004 - 5:55 PM
- - Kwanza26   Just so you know... I've driven an SRT-4... an...   Sep 4, 2004 - 5:58 PM
- - Shortty   Think Uz is right on this one - the four is prob g...   Sep 4, 2004 - 7:29 PM
- - o8poa8o   shortty you talking about the supra and gt4 when y...   Sep 4, 2004 - 9:13 PM
- - Hym3n   QUOTE (Rjb23 @ Sep 4, 2004 - 4:55 PM) I've see...   Sep 4, 2004 - 10:35 PM
- - Rjb23   I'm disagreeing with your point b.   Sep 5, 2004 - 4:28 AM
- - uzthedentist   QUOTE Your kidding right? First off the gt4 woul...   Sep 5, 2004 - 5:54 AM
- - uzthedentist   oh dear looks like im saying two different things ...   Sep 5, 2004 - 7:43 AM
- - boosted_K2   i whole-heartedly agree with you uz, lol people wh...   Sep 5, 2004 - 1:23 PM
- - uzthedentist   could that guys avatar be any more big??   Sep 5, 2004 - 3:26 PM
- - Andason   QUOTE (boosted_K2 @ Sep 5, 2004 - 12:23 PM) and Ar...   Sep 5, 2004 - 3:34 PM
- - Rjb23   QUOTE (boosted_K2 @ Sep 5, 2004 - 6:23 PM) i whole...   Sep 5, 2004 - 4:07 PM
- - uzthedentist   QUOTE Ok then your saying the gt4 and a gsx are so...   Sep 5, 2004 - 4:34 PM
- - uzthedentist   QUOTE Ok then your saying the gt4 and a gsx are so...   Sep 5, 2004 - 4:41 PM
- - Hym3n   QUOTE (uzthedentist @ Sep 5, 2004 - 3:41 PM) mitsu...   Sep 5, 2004 - 10:30 PM
- - Rjb23   Ok so your saying that a gt4 weighs in at alittle ...   Sep 5, 2004 - 11:29 PM
- - snadman   No...the SRT4 will not win. I took my WRX when it ...   Sep 5, 2004 - 11:37 PM
- - Rjb23   What year was the srt4? The 2k3 is 215hp and the 2...   Sep 5, 2004 - 11:49 PM
- - Seth6Gen   but how could the neon win when its broken on the ...   Sep 6, 2004 - 12:26 AM
- - Mike   lalalalalalalalala depends on driver lalalalalalal...   Sep 6, 2004 - 2:02 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Rjb23 @ Sep 5, 2004 - 8:49 PM) What year wa...   Sep 6, 2004 - 11:56 AM
- - neoklis   The GT4 is not really made for quarter mile speed ...   Sep 8, 2004 - 6:57 AM
- - phaqgm   QUOTE (Andason @ Sep 5, 2004 - 1:34 PM) QUOTE...   Sep 8, 2004 - 3:13 PM
- - racingmcfly   I would say it would be down to the driver between...   Sep 26, 2004 - 4:29 PM


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