Looking for advice on performance, Swap, hybrid, rebuild? |
Looking for advice on performance, Swap, hybrid, rebuild? |
Sep 25, 2004 - 11:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 16, '02 From Hohenwald, Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I've already made my cosmetic and suspension plans for my Celica that will come in the future, but now I have to think about what is going to be under the hood. Sometimes it only frustrates me to think about it so I figured I would get some ideas and opinions.
OK, so far I've pretty much ruled out a 7a-fte project. It just doesn't seem like it will pay off in the long run. The minimum goal I'm wanting to achieve is 250 whp, and 250 lb-ft. of torque. How I get that... I really don't care. The problem I'm having is that I don't know where to start. I want something that is going to completely blow people's minds when they see it. I know that getting something like that requires custom work - and I'm not talking about the homemade kind (unless you're someone that knows how to do it). I don't know anyone at all that can make custom headers, mounts, intakes, piping, etc. I know that probably the most fun project would be a 7a-gte. I'm really impressed by frotou's project. After seeing all the custom work he's had done, I doubt I would ever be able to pull something like that off. I guess the only other option I have would to be a 4a-gze or 3s-gte swap. After seeing all the trouble that John went through with his 4a-gze, I'm kinda iffy about that as well. I know that the 3s-gte would give me trouble since I have an ST. I haven't done that much research about it. I don't know which generation of the 3s-gte is better, or if it's more common to find a USDM 3s-gte for the swap or a JDM 3s-gte. Sitting around and thinking about all this just makes me want to turn the Celica into a beater and save up for an EVO. But despite that, all my friends say I should keep the Celica and fix it up beyond belief. I guess that's the path I'll go unless a swap or hybrid project drives me insane. I am by no means a car expert, and I wouldn't even touch my engine in any way other than to change the oil, spark plugs, belts, or any other job that a monkey with a wrench could do successfully. I'm all about tearing it apart to learn about it, but I wouldn't consider putting anything together on my car without some supervision (I think I got lucky when I successfully replaced my front axles). I dunno, maybe I know more about cars than I think, but I'm still nervous to do anything big. Alright, I started rambling. So give me your ideas, opinions, criticism or anything else you can come up with. |
Sep 29, 2004 - 4:41 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well in that case, i'll again disagree. I have yet to see stock 4AGZ internals take enough boost to make 250whp reliably. Sure people run turbo set-ups off of the 4AGZ block, and boost up to hit 250 whp to run a few at the dragstrip or something, but 250whp out of the 4AGZE (turbo or upgraded supercharger), is gonna take more work than bolting stuff up. I doubt the stock rods/pistons can take more than 15 psi reliably with an effieicent charge... assuming you can supply enougn fuel and tune it all up... As for the S series, the stock bottom-ends have proven to hold up to 15psi fairly well so long as fuel is good. 15psi on a well tuned 3SGTE makes well over 250 whp... but 15 psi on a well tuned 4AG/T/Z barely breaks 210 whp with an efficient turbo/supercharger... at least I've yet to see a 4AGZ be boosted up to 250whp on stock internals... This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Sep 29, 2004 - 4:41 PM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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