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post Sep 28, 2004 - 10:51 PM
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ty708

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Hey everyone,


I need to replace my 7afe and was going to order a 20v silvertop and was wanting to make sure this was a good choice. Also i was wondering what all was required to use the tranny that comes with the motor. All info is appreciated.

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post Sep 29, 2004 - 4:53 PM
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QUOTE (Mr2swift @ Sep 29, 2004 - 6:54 PM)
In all honesty, a 20 valve will feel like a modified 7afe and therefor really is not worth the swap unless you plan on putting a turbo on it which can really yeild great gains. But believe you me when I say that the 4agze is no slouch and can yeild great gains. For simplicity, the 3sgte from the St205 is going to be the best bet for ease of install and power output.



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I disagree with that completely. I've built a 7AFE up pretty good and it does not deliver the same or even a similar powerband as the 4AGE. The FE head design, as I've mentioned on this site again and again, does not make power in the high rpms, nor can it even rev efficiently. That's not a good enough reason, IMO, to look down on the 20V 4AGE. Like I mentioned above, it's all about tastes. If you like the straight line and enjoy racing for a few seconds at a time... then by all means, go for the Turbo or Supercharged motors... but if you enjoy track racing, corners, twists, racing that requires more than simply slamming on the gas, then a 20V will be far more fun. Just my opinion on the matter... I've driven a 4AGZE powered AE86 and the non-linear power, although very good, is not effective at what I'd do with a chassi like the AE86. Not everything should be geared towards making power. What's good about massive horspower and torque if you can't even effectively put it on the ground? That's the reason why the swapped guys here have yet to run a 1/4 mile time worthy of admiration...

I'm speaking from experience with my secret track project... the 20V is an excellent platform to build off of and can make some power in n/a trim. A turbo, as far as I'm concerned, is the easy way out. Anyone can bolt-on a turbo kit, but only a select few can build a truely powerful n/a 4 cyclinder...

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Sep 29, 2004 - 4:56 PM


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- ty708   6th Gen Swap   Sep 28, 2004 - 10:51 PM
- - Mr2swift   Hello Tyler, I would highly suggest that you consi...   Sep 28, 2004 - 11:04 PM
- - fastgt   hey ty talk to coomer , the site owner, he has the...   Sep 28, 2004 - 11:18 PM
- - FAQdaWorld   QUOTE (Mr2swift @ Sep 28, 2004 - 11:04 PM) Hello T...   Sep 29, 2004 - 12:20 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Mr2swift @ Sep 29, 2004 - 4:04 AM) Hello Ty...   Sep 29, 2004 - 12:30 AM
- - FallenHero   the compression of the 20V will make it a pain to ...   Sep 29, 2004 - 12:02 PM
- - celicaracer18   QUOTE (FAQdaWorld @ Sep 29, 2004 - 5:20 AM) Q...   Sep 29, 2004 - 1:15 PM
- - Mr2swift   Please excuse any confusion that I might have caus...   Sep 29, 2004 - 1:54 PM
- - Xpander   You do not need to get different axles. Stock 7AF...   Sep 29, 2004 - 2:07 PM
- - Mr2swift   So are you saying that you can use 7a axles on a M...   Sep 29, 2004 - 2:15 PM
- - FallenHero   either way, 7a axles weren't made for 200hp an...   Sep 29, 2004 - 3:15 PM
- - Xpander   I was reffering to a 4AGE 20v swap, not any kind ...   Sep 29, 2004 - 3:19 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Mr2swift @ Sep 29, 2004 - 6:54 PM) In ...   Sep 29, 2004 - 4:53 PM
- - playr158   nice^^^^^ i think i'm goin the N/A way but tha...   Sep 29, 2004 - 5:02 PM
- - spunky393   Second Kwanza, hahahaha   Sep 29, 2004 - 5:02 PM
- - Coomer   The 20V AE101 4A-GE is quite the fun engine like K...   Sep 29, 2004 - 5:05 PM
- - Mr2swift   From the many swaps that I have done and sold, mos...   Sep 29, 2004 - 5:25 PM
- - ty708   thx everybody for your help. This might sound dum...   Sep 30, 2004 - 12:35 AM
- - Xpander   Hey Tyler, Where exactly is Destin, FL ? I might...   Sep 30, 2004 - 10:29 AM
- - ty708   Hey man lets see destin is located in the panhandl...   Sep 30, 2004 - 1:22 PM
- - Coomer   As far as mounts, you can use your stock ones. the...   Sep 30, 2004 - 3:10 PM
- - ty708   Yea i figured it will be quite a bit of wire splic...   Sep 30, 2004 - 11:26 PM
- - Consynx   i think most people bought books on both models, t...   Oct 1, 2004 - 11:53 AM
- - Coomer   Good luck finding an English book for the AE101 Co...   Oct 1, 2004 - 3:32 PM
- - ty708   ok it looks like im finally going to be starting o...   May 10, 2005 - 7:23 AM


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