Looking for advice on performance, Swap, hybrid, rebuild? |
Looking for advice on performance, Swap, hybrid, rebuild? |
Sep 25, 2004 - 11:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 16, '02 From Hohenwald, Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I've already made my cosmetic and suspension plans for my Celica that will come in the future, but now I have to think about what is going to be under the hood. Sometimes it only frustrates me to think about it so I figured I would get some ideas and opinions.
OK, so far I've pretty much ruled out a 7a-fte project. It just doesn't seem like it will pay off in the long run. The minimum goal I'm wanting to achieve is 250 whp, and 250 lb-ft. of torque. How I get that... I really don't care. The problem I'm having is that I don't know where to start. I want something that is going to completely blow people's minds when they see it. I know that getting something like that requires custom work - and I'm not talking about the homemade kind (unless you're someone that knows how to do it). I don't know anyone at all that can make custom headers, mounts, intakes, piping, etc. I know that probably the most fun project would be a 7a-gte. I'm really impressed by frotou's project. After seeing all the custom work he's had done, I doubt I would ever be able to pull something like that off. I guess the only other option I have would to be a 4a-gze or 3s-gte swap. After seeing all the trouble that John went through with his 4a-gze, I'm kinda iffy about that as well. I know that the 3s-gte would give me trouble since I have an ST. I haven't done that much research about it. I don't know which generation of the 3s-gte is better, or if it's more common to find a USDM 3s-gte for the swap or a JDM 3s-gte. Sitting around and thinking about all this just makes me want to turn the Celica into a beater and save up for an EVO. But despite that, all my friends say I should keep the Celica and fix it up beyond belief. I guess that's the path I'll go unless a swap or hybrid project drives me insane. I am by no means a car expert, and I wouldn't even touch my engine in any way other than to change the oil, spark plugs, belts, or any other job that a monkey with a wrench could do successfully. I'm all about tearing it apart to learn about it, but I wouldn't consider putting anything together on my car without some supervision (I think I got lucky when I successfully replaced my front axles). I dunno, maybe I know more about cars than I think, but I'm still nervous to do anything big. Alright, I started rambling. So give me your ideas, opinions, criticism or anything else you can come up with. |
Sep 30, 2004 - 1:43 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '04 From California Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Excellent point Kwanza26, as I am really getting to like this message board. Unfortuneately, you are now on a subject "4agze" that I personally specialize in. First off the bottom end of the 4agze late model is so robust that it is just over kill. Problem with alot of 4agze owners is that they add power but do not tune it properly, and they are early model 4agze owners. Properly tuned the 4agze can handle 250 to the wheels reliably with no problems at all. I am currently running 210 to the wheels at 17 pounds of boost from my twinscrew supercharger and Link engine management. Many people are running 225+ at the wheels with no problems at all, untuned! Forged pistons, rods as big as crower, oil squirters under the pistons, forged crank, 365cc injectors, and 7 rib block. Believe me when I tell you folks, the late model 4agze is quite robust, but must be tuned properly. I am sure the early model 4agze can handle the power output as well, but the bottom end of the late model 4agze is really what you want to build your powerhouse around. On the other hand, 250whp from a 3sgte would be more easy to attain and tuning is not as big of an issue. I speak from personal experience as well as the many Toyota owners I have dealt with over the years to bring facts to this message board and not speculation. Great Forum! Ron (909) 283-3778 Motors Unlimited |
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