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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 16, '02 From Hohenwald, Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
I've already made my cosmetic and suspension plans for my Celica that will come in the future, but now I have to think about what is going to be under the hood. Sometimes it only frustrates me to think about it so I figured I would get some ideas and opinions.
OK, so far I've pretty much ruled out a 7a-fte project. It just doesn't seem like it will pay off in the long run. The minimum goal I'm wanting to achieve is 250 whp, and 250 lb-ft. of torque. How I get that... I really don't care. The problem I'm having is that I don't know where to start. I want something that is going to completely blow people's minds when they see it. I know that getting something like that requires custom work - and I'm not talking about the homemade kind (unless you're someone that knows how to do it). I don't know anyone at all that can make custom headers, mounts, intakes, piping, etc. I know that probably the most fun project would be a 7a-gte. I'm really impressed by frotou's project. After seeing all the custom work he's had done, I doubt I would ever be able to pull something like that off. I guess the only other option I have would to be a 4a-gze or 3s-gte swap. After seeing all the trouble that John went through with his 4a-gze, I'm kinda iffy about that as well. I know that the 3s-gte would give me trouble since I have an ST. I haven't done that much research about it. I don't know which generation of the 3s-gte is better, or if it's more common to find a USDM 3s-gte for the swap or a JDM 3s-gte. Sitting around and thinking about all this just makes me want to turn the Celica into a beater and save up for an EVO. But despite that, all my friends say I should keep the Celica and fix it up beyond belief. I guess that's the path I'll go unless a swap or hybrid project drives me insane. I am by no means a car expert, and I wouldn't even touch my engine in any way other than to change the oil, spark plugs, belts, or any other job that a monkey with a wrench could do successfully. I'm all about tearing it apart to learn about it, but I wouldn't consider putting anything together on my car without some supervision (I think I got lucky when I successfully replaced my front axles). I dunno, maybe I know more about cars than I think, but I'm still nervous to do anything big. Alright, I started rambling. So give me your ideas, opinions, criticism or anything else you can come up with. |
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Sep 28, '04 From California Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I agree with Kwanza26. If you are going to do any sort of rewiring then you should go with the 3sgte point blank. It is already turbo and in its stock trim you are already well over the power the stock 20valve has. 20 valve engine is a fun engine but is really for road racing. If you turbo it then you will need to change the internals. Most will use 4agze pistons as they are plug and play. The money you put in buying a 20valve and then building a custom turbo kit and you are already over the price you would have paid for the 3sgte (unless you get 2nd hand parts and 2nd hand work) which in my opinion is the better of the two engines from a performance aspect as well as a bullet proof setup. The next setup I would recommend would be the 4agze swap as you will receive a front wheel drive tranny with axles and if it is a 101 then you have Lsd! 20 valve is for road racing guys that are trully committed to it. However, if you plan on doing extensive work and completely doing the 20 valve up with pistions and turbo, then yes it will set you back, but will yield greater gains over the 4agze. From an instant power standpoint in which you do a swap and drive off, then it should be 3sgte then 4agze point blank and if anyone says any different then they have not been doing this long enough. Ron (909) 283-3778 Motors Unlimited |
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