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post Mar 22, 2003 - 12:31 AM
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i know most people say 3S-GTE because it was made for power...
but just think w/ me for a sec

Cost to swap 3S-GTE into a GT: ~$3000(yes i said $3000)
Mods for 5S-FE:
Camshaft Regrings $500, Guaranteed 30hp(WebCams)
Custom Turbo Kit $1200
Spearco Intercooler $1000
that right there should put you right at, if not over the 3S-GTE's horsepower.
then an ECU programming would be in line, along with possible lowering of compression and all...


just food for thought.
any suggestions why the 5S-FE is a bad idea?


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post Mar 23, 2003 - 8:18 PM
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there is a guy who has 500hp on a 5S-FE
i remember just doing a search and coming upon the website before.

yes there is a higher compression so you can't run as high of a boost

but to get the 250hp you spoke of, you do not have to run 15PSI

the biggest change for the 5S-FE (according the NA MR2 owners) are the WebCam Camshaft Regrinds...
They gurantee at least 30 hp...
that puts up to 165...plus 45 from burien turbo...plus ~30? from a good intercooler...that's 240 at 7-9PSI.

and i'm not talking about overall outcome, i'm talking practical.
i don't think anyone here is going to put 20G's under their car's hood.

i was just thinking that the 5S-FE can be made into the 5S-GTE/FTE and be just as good as a 3S-GTE for the same price...
if you ever wanted to keep going, it's not as hard to source parts for it, not JDM. and Rod Millen has the forged pistons just waiting....

Does anyone have idea on it other than the 'final outcome' of the two engines.


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- Consynx   3S-GTE vs modded 5S   Mar 22, 2003 - 12:31 AM
- - sapperk   Did u read my topic? theres a huge debate on this....   Mar 22, 2003 - 12:33 AM
- - Inferno   Well...I have one. From what I've learned...th...   Mar 22, 2003 - 1:29 AM
- - Benevolence   I would go for a modded 5sfe because I live in cal...   Mar 22, 2003 - 3:46 AM
- - Mage   Also, don't forget that ultimately, you're...   Mar 22, 2003 - 4:21 AM
- - FallenHero   Look at it like this. The 5s was made for economy...   Mar 22, 2003 - 11:53 AM
- - Charlie97L   QUOTE (Consynx @ Mar 21, 2003 - 10:31 PM) i know m...   Mar 22, 2003 - 11:58 AM
- - 95STCelica   Would the 3s-gte really have that much of a proble...   Mar 22, 2003 - 12:02 PM
- - No0bOne   I'm with mage. Has anyone done this before? di...   Mar 22, 2003 - 4:09 PM
- - FallenHero   320not enough? That's like saying killin vipe...   Mar 22, 2003 - 11:03 PM
- - Matthew   ok well i haven't posted for a while because m...   Mar 22, 2003 - 11:30 PM
- - hioctane   QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 22, 2003 - 9:30 PM) ...   Mar 22, 2003 - 11:32 PM
- - FallenHero   Man, I've not seen Igotta in a while.   Mar 23, 2003 - 12:51 AM
- - 95STCelica   QUOTE (hioctane @ Mar 22, 2003 - 9:32 PM) QUOTE (i...   Mar 23, 2003 - 2:50 PM
- - Matthew   *sigh* I know, I am a role model to all the celica...   Mar 23, 2003 - 4:21 PM
- - Consynx   there is a guy who has 500hp on a 5S-FE i remember...   Mar 23, 2003 - 8:18 PM
- - Consynx   Missed a post :-\ there was a comment on the...   Mar 23, 2003 - 8:22 PM
- - FallenHero   Here is the argument put down about this all the t...   Mar 24, 2003 - 1:09 AM
- - No0bOne   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Mar 22, 2003 - 9:03 PM) 320not...   Mar 24, 2003 - 7:31 AM
- - FallenHero   If my car had 320whp, it would kill most any viper...   Mar 24, 2003 - 10:43 AM
- - miami305   I would modify a 5s instead of swapping in a 3s-gt...   Mar 24, 2003 - 1:12 PM
- - rlan214   cams 30 hp   Mar 24, 2003 - 4:52 PM
- - sapperk   Im all for the 5 SFE turbo,it makes sense.. so wh...   Mar 25, 2003 - 7:04 PM
- - Inferno   I'm still going for the 3S-GTE.   Mar 25, 2003 - 8:26 PM
- - Matthew   the only main difference is that the 5S-FE is a 2....   Mar 29, 2003 - 2:19 PM
- - west_minist   Please also remember that there is a 3SGE out ther...   Mar 30, 2003 - 8:02 AM
- - Jussimple   Ahhhhh, its threads like this that make this site ...   Mar 30, 2003 - 10:21 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   i would have to say a carefully turboed 5s-fe, or ...   Mar 30, 2003 - 12:35 PM
- - jayi12-15psi   where can I find web cams?   Mar 30, 2003 - 1:03 PM
- - edo17982   http://www.webcamshafts.com   Mar 30, 2003 - 1:17 PM
- - 97sccelica   well initially, if you turboed the 5sfe it would b...   Mar 30, 2003 - 1:42 PM
- - Matthew   sigh you can not raise boost pressure by just get...   Mar 30, 2003 - 2:16 PM
- - hiflytsi   QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 11:30 AM)...   Mar 30, 2003 - 2:22 PM
- - Matthew   i do have a turbo. but there is no way that i wou...   Mar 30, 2003 - 3:33 PM
- - snadman   Now now children. Let's not fight. This engin...   Mar 30, 2003 - 4:49 PM
- - TurboCeli   heres a building trick that will work and actually...   Mar 30, 2003 - 4:56 PM
- - Swifty   Not to bash the whole 5sfe idea but the costs are ...   Mar 30, 2003 - 6:16 PM
- - presure2   i dont know, guys,...i mean to put it simply, the ...   Mar 30, 2003 - 6:33 PM
- - snadman   Where are you guys getting these huge horsepower n...   Mar 30, 2003 - 10:25 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   QUOTE (TurboCeli @ Mar 30, 2003 - 2:10 PM) heres a...   Mar 31, 2003 - 12:02 PM
- - hiflytsi   QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 12:47 PM)...   Mar 31, 2003 - 6:02 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 11:30 AM)...   Mar 31, 2003 - 9:28 PM
- - Consynx   Snadman/sandman The 3S-GTE 3rd gen has 255hp that ...   Apr 1, 2003 - 11:35 PM
- - celica3sgte   This is a very stupid post. A modded 5s-fe(I...   Apr 3, 2003 - 2:28 AM
- - 1bwilson   End of the summer we'll see what the 5s can do...   Apr 3, 2003 - 2:59 AM
- - FallenHero   Your drive shafts will go first. Think of them as...   Apr 4, 2003 - 1:03 AM


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