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post Nov 5, 2004 - 2:02 PM
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My GT has a lot of body roll, it occurs even when turning slightly. On several occassions the rear has broke loose because of the weight transfer. What are some good parts can I buy to make it go away. Also I have a lot of ground clearance can anyone help me out?
 
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post Nov 29, 2004 - 6:41 PM
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I'm not sure I completely agree with a FF not sliding the back. I've raced dirt track, and I agree that it’s not a common thing for a FF to slide the back end. But, my old car would do it every now and then if I induced body role. Of course that car had a 67- 33% weight distribution front to back. It was a 92 Geo Storm Gsi, with a gutted interior and a fair amount of work done to the engine. I've never had either of my Celica’s ever do this though, and I don't think it's possible for them too. I don’t think this guy is telling the truth, but I think some FF cars will slide if you put effort into it.


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post Nov 29, 2004 - 6:58 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 29, 2004 - 11:41 PM)
I'm not sure I completely agree with a FF not sliding the back.  I've raced dirt track, and I agree that it’s not a common thing for a FF to slide the back end.  But, my old car would do it every now and then if I induced body role.  Of course that car had a 67- 33% weight distribution front to back.  It was a 92 Geo Storm Gsi, with a gutted interior and a fair amount of work done to the engine.  I've never had either of my Celica’s ever do this though, and I don't think it's possible for them too.  I don’t think this guy is telling the truth, but I think some FF cars will slide if you put effort into it.
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Dirt and pavement are completely different worlds. Key word is "effort". I can make my FF car slide in the back... it's as easy as pulling the e-brake. As far as tail sliding during the apex of a corner during somewhat normal fast driving, it simply doesn't happen as exaggeratedly as some people think. You'd have to either be slamming on the brake where as the front is stopping completely and the rear loses all traction and slides out (like what RedSunCelica describes), or you directly apply pressure via e-brake. Even with staggered wheel set-ups, which is very common in FF racing, high grip tires up front and low grip in the rear to minimize understeer, a FF car doesn't exhibit tail sliding without direct input. The front wheels are constantly pulling the rear... so there's no way the rear can somehow pull itself elsewhere away fron the front without direct input from the driver. It's simple physics... I find it almost laughable how often people try to argue against this...


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- TRD-ST204   body roll   Nov 5, 2004 - 2:02 PM
- - Gilbert_619   the best way is to cage it up i think.... or jus...   Nov 5, 2004 - 2:15 PM
- - dabbill   Coilovers will help alot. Droping my car about 3 i...   Nov 5, 2004 - 2:49 PM
- - Digndoug   I think some springs or such would help a ton. Als...   Nov 5, 2004 - 3:53 PM
- - rjbibeau   3 inches no way did you lower it that much. i slam...   Nov 5, 2004 - 4:08 PM
- - TTE   I think in your case your shocks need replacement....   Nov 5, 2004 - 4:55 PM
- - dabbill   I have no suspention left. I went from a 3.5 inch ...   Nov 5, 2004 - 5:04 PM
- - playr158   coilovers with koni adjustables will do very good....   Nov 5, 2004 - 11:35 PM
- - Junior   sounds like you need some shocks and springs. You...   Nov 6, 2004 - 1:54 AM
- - Mike   New tires too, with a bigger contact patch   Nov 6, 2004 - 12:11 PM
- - shadycrew31   get new springs and shocks. that should bring it t...   Nov 6, 2004 - 3:41 PM
- - Batman722   Just what everyone said already. also, the cheap ...   Nov 6, 2004 - 5:11 PM
- - frosty   Oh crap, just redo your whole suspension!   Nov 6, 2004 - 9:47 PM
- - playr158   ^basically what he should do......if your goin to ...   Nov 7, 2004 - 12:52 AM
- - Akimbo   Links for sways bars, bushings, and strut tower ba...   Nov 8, 2004 - 12:16 AM
- - stcivickiller   well for starters coilover off of ebay are probebl...   Nov 8, 2004 - 12:44 AM
- - TRD-ST204   Thanks for all your replies it helps me out a lot....   Nov 9, 2004 - 2:00 PM
- - shadycrew31   sorry for bringing up a dead topic but trd's i...   Nov 21, 2004 - 7:01 AM
- - Consynx   eh-hem, do not buy sustension techniques sway bars...   Nov 21, 2004 - 2:35 PM
- - Kwanza26   First off... the rear-end of a FWD car can't b...   Nov 21, 2004 - 9:43 PM
- - 97GTinKC   If you are having a lot of body roll even when jus...   Nov 21, 2004 - 10:29 PM
- - streetdreamz94   I agree w/ kwan ... i put all new suspension on mi...   Nov 22, 2004 - 11:11 AM
- - Supersprynt   With that said - whats the kick ass strut to get?   Nov 22, 2004 - 12:01 PM
|- - ghostdog   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Nov 22, 2004 - 1:01 PM)Wi...   Nov 22, 2004 - 12:39 PM
- - Supersprynt   ha i dont have that much cash. I have lowering spr...   Nov 22, 2004 - 12:51 PM
|- - ghostdog   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Nov 22, 2004 - 1:51 PM)ha...   Nov 22, 2004 - 1:02 PM
- - Supersprynt   Meh guess im going OEM   Nov 22, 2004 - 1:56 PM
- - redtcel   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Nov 22, 2004 - 2:43 AM)First...   Nov 28, 2004 - 4:25 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(redtcel @ Nov 28, 2004 - 9:25 PM)QUOTE(...   Nov 29, 2004 - 3:39 PM
- - Consynx   Are you letting off the gas? do you have it over 3...   Nov 28, 2004 - 8:12 PM
- - TRD-ST204   No, I don't really drive fast unless I have to...   Nov 29, 2004 - 3:30 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(TRD-ST204 @ Nov 29, 2004 - 8:30 PM...   Nov 29, 2004 - 3:40 PM
|- - RedSunCelica   yup kwanzas right the back end will never come out...   Nov 29, 2004 - 4:00 PM
- - Consynx   heel-toe? maybe he was reffering to another way of...   Nov 29, 2004 - 5:13 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I'm not sure I completely agree with a FF not ...   Nov 29, 2004 - 6:41 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 29, 2004 - 11:41...   Nov 29, 2004 - 6:58 PM
|- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Nov 29, 2004 - 4:58 PM)QUOTE...   Nov 29, 2004 - 9:29 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 30, 2004 - 2:29 ...   Nov 30, 2004 - 10:08 AM
- - TRD-ST204   It could also be that I don't have ABS and the...   Nov 30, 2004 - 2:25 PM
- - TRD-ST204   Hey Kwanza I don't think you know what you are...   Nov 30, 2004 - 2:39 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(TRD-ST204 @ Nov 30, 2004 - 7:39 PM...   Nov 30, 2004 - 6:26 PM
- - TRD-ST204   You probably lose all the time don't you!   Nov 30, 2004 - 8:59 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Hey Kwanza26, it seems to me that you and me are p...   Dec 1, 2004 - 12:03 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Dec 1, 2004 - 5:03 A...   Dec 1, 2004 - 12:38 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Kwanza26, your the worst thing on this site. You ...   Dec 1, 2004 - 1:00 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Dec 1, 2004 - 6:00 A...   Dec 1, 2004 - 1:08 AM
|- - FallenHero   quiet you. he has more boxes, thus he is right. ...   Dec 1, 2004 - 1:09 AM
- - Digndoug   ahh Come on kids.. everyone has there own way of d...   Dec 1, 2004 - 1:01 AM
- - trdevelopment   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 1, 2004 - 5:38 AM)QUOTE(...   Dec 1, 2004 - 2:32 AM
- - Supersprynt   I think u guys need to back the truck up. Kwanza k...   Dec 1, 2004 - 11:30 AM
- - ghostdog   no more of this petty bickering .. locked   Dec 1, 2004 - 12:16 PM


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