V6 swap, Your thoughts Options

[FallenHero]

http://engr.ucsb.edu/~warped/projects/swap/cost.htm that is the parts and price list from a 5th gen celica

I had this huge write up on it that I made. I linked to all these web pages and stuff and really got all the information together. Hit the button to post the thread, and it shot me an error and killed my write up

SO, instead of getting my big beautiful write up, you get to make your own decisions because I am pissed. Maybe I'll write more up later. Maybe somebody with broadband will search around and find all the info and post it.

I quit.
goodnight

[Hanyo]

what i worry about in this swap is the alighment of the engine. he had clearances of around 1 inch. from the frame. I think if he didn't get it just right he would have problems with the engine hitting the firewall. the more scary part was when he lowered the engine and had to modify the engine cradle. too scary for such little gain.

[FallenHero]

what i worry about in this swap is the alighment of the engine. he had clearances of around 1 inch.  from the frame. I think if he didn't get it just right he would have problems with the engine hitting the firewall. the more scary part was when he lowered the engine and had to modify the engine cradle. too scary for such little gain.
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Modding the cradle is no problem as long as you reinforce it. Like I have said, I am not diving into this, and odds are i won't do it anyway. I am just trying to get the information together to offer my objective opinions on how to do it in the 6th gen. I also hope to get the wiring diagrams for the site to use. That's my next miniproject.

EDIT: also, I would not think the wiring would be very bad for this swap... I am keeping the auto, keeping it FWD, keeping the same ECU with the same engine... the ecu should be plug and play with the engine. the only things I would have to wire in are certain perepherals. I would also have to switch out the gauge cluster interworkings, so that would wind up plug and play also. Like I said, the actuall chassis wiring harnesses would be different, but as long as you knew what they were for the 7a, and what the 1mz was looking for, it wouldn't be any problem to get the two together.

I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS AN EASY SWAP THOUGH... just for people that don't know, it has never been done on a 6th gen, and the 5th gen is or was having some problems.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid8...09/fa9e88a9.jpg

did he do this to keep the engine from moving under load.... wow


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid8...60/fa9e88fe.jpg

he could have removed that section and boxed the cradle for strength rather than just pounding it down... just a thought. Gotta love a plasma cutter.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid8...5f/fa9e8919.jpg
here is your overheating problem i bet. isn't that the pipe with cool water going to the engine from the radiator? Keep in mind, I think the 1mz reverses water flow. With that in mind, that copper cube would get really hot over the header like that. There is surely another way to do it.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid9...06/fa711020.jpg

I think the 6th gen engine bay is larger... it does, after all, house the 3rd gen 3s in japan. that engine is way bigger than the 1mz.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid8...7e/fa9e8822.jpg
once again, surely there is another way.

This post has been edited by FallenHero: Dec 1, 2004 - 7:43 PM