Body Roll, FWD Roll Options

[CrazyJ]

After reading the now closed "body roll" topic I just want to add that I can make my 94 SSII JDM 2.0 Celica (3sge) drift around a round-a-bout (these simplify big junctions in the uk)...

I was doing about 20mph driving like miss daisy in third gear barely touching the acceleration and my back end came right out whilst on a 2/3 lock of the wheel to the right.... It came out so bad I drifted the last 1/3 of the round-a-bout off to my exit... very cool and extremely scary....any doubters and I will take you for a spin myself (if you live near of course) and er prove it...

Any I was defo driving carefully because the missis was in the car...

I have had the front shocks changed and the anti roll bar bushes since, also waiting for the cv joints to be changed,.. I can still make it do it but have to work harder now.

just for the record.

Cheers

J

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Drifting is still the "in thing?" I thought that fad played its coarse aready. Shoot, I love the stuff, I had a 88 RX-7 that I dirt raced and sometimes drifted(non-event). As long as it's all in good fun. This fad will be over just as quick and the aluminum wing craze, so try to relax about man. Your getting to worked up over a few ingorant poeple. Poeple like that haven't loved cars their intire lives, and won't forever. There just not real car poeple, which means they don't matter.

[Kwanza26]

Drifting is still the "in thing?"  I thought that fad played its coarse aready. Shoot, I love the stuff, I had a 88 RX-7 that I dirt raced and sometimes drifted(non-event).  As long as it's all in good fun.  This fad will be over just as quick and the aluminum wing craze, so try to relax about man.  Your getting to worked up over a few ingorant poeple.  Poeple like that haven't loved cars their intire lives, and won't forever.  There just not real car poeple, which means they don't matter.
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It's not that I get pissed or anything like that. Typically it all starts with me saying something as simple as "FWD cars don't tail slide like that" and then it blows up from there. This topic however was a blatant and stupid attempt to carry on an argument that obviously pissed off a quite a few people on both ends, hence it was locked. It's not neccesary and I don't even want to waste my time to explain to the person who started this topic. That's all.

As for drifting... I dunno how it is where you live... but drifting is only gonna get bigger. I deal with performance imports and so-called "drifter cars" are beginning to replace the common FF import. Also notice import magazines now cover the popular drift cars (240sx, etc) as much as they cover the typical Honda. It's growing. I personally think drifting is a fun thing to do and requires very high driving skill levels, however is still not a proven race technique (on pavement anyway). The sad thing is, most of the so-called tail sliding people still drive FF cars or have very poor FR driving skills. When people don't know enough how different drivetrain layouts react... it's just annoying to hear them claim things such as tail sliding around a corner and drifting at 20 mph in 3rd gear with an FF car, which typically don't react like that.

[RedSunCelica]

are you sure the back end was sliding and not the front end? kinda hard to believe that the back end will do that in 3rd at 20mph.

even in heavy rain it wont happen. im pretty sure you where understeering thru the corner steering got light and it felt like you where drifting. either way i say we have a 6gc track day at willow springs race way whos with me