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post Dec 23, 2004 - 2:32 PM
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im thinkin on making my spare 3sgte a stroker input please...

how do you build these with 5sfe... is it the 3sgte block, rods and pistons w/ a 5sfe crank shaved down?

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post Dec 28, 2004 - 1:06 PM
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If you look at the specs for the 5sfe and 3sgte the differences in the lower end is the bore and stroke length. The bore difference is 1 or 2 mm. The main reason the 5s has a larger displacement is due to the stroke length. From what I know, from research done in the past, the 5s crank will fit right in. Its been debated, check the MR-2 forums, whether or not a 3s head can be mated with a 5s block. It can be done, but its not worth it.
post Dec 28, 2004 - 2:58 PM
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QUOTE(Junior @ Dec 28, 2004 - 6:06 PM)
If you look at the specs for the 5sfe and 3sgte the differences in the lower end is the bore and stroke length.  The bore difference is 1 or 2 mm.  The main reason the 5s has a larger displacement is due to the stroke length.  From what I know, from research done in the past, the 5s crank will fit right in.  Its been debated, check the MR-2 forums, whether or not a 3s head can be mated with a 5s block.  It can be done, but its not worth it.
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I really doubt the 5S crank will simply drop in. The 5S crank is pretty big compared to the 3S... but whatever. Nothing against the MR-2 guys, but they're also the guys who claimed to have used S2000 shimless buckets to do shimless conversions on 5SFE's... when in fact, the S2000 doesn't even use buckets/shims... so don't take what they say as the gospel truth...

IMO, the 3SG base is far better anyway. Unless you're doing an all out drag motor with big torque as the goal, the 3SG is a perfect squared motor with some of the toughest factory rods... and the 5S bottom-end just can't match that without a lot of custom work.


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- thedevilmaycrie   3sgte stroker   Dec 23, 2004 - 2:32 PM
- - Junior   3s block with 5sfe crank, rods, and pistons. Ther...   Dec 23, 2004 - 2:36 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   yeah but making one is cheaper -DMC   Dec 23, 2004 - 2:37 PM
- - Supersprynt   Jun makes a 2.2L for 3400   Dec 23, 2004 - 3:57 PM
|- - shid   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Dec 23, 2004 - 8:57 PM)Ju...   Dec 23, 2004 - 9:21 PM
- - 1bwilson   Its 5sfe block, rods,crank,pistons. 3sgte head, ca...   Dec 23, 2004 - 9:07 PM
- - Punch   If you do it this is the best way to go 3sgte hea...   Dec 24, 2004 - 11:44 PM
- - 1bwilson   QUOTE(Punch @ Dec 24, 2004 - 9:44 PM)If you d...   Dec 25, 2004 - 12:30 AM
- - Junior   people, do some research. It is not easy to fit a...   Dec 25, 2004 - 1:28 PM
- - FallenHero   www.club4ag.com go to tech and then look under 7...   Dec 25, 2004 - 8:10 PM
- - celica3sgte   I think Junior hit this one on the nose. lol. The...   Dec 27, 2004 - 5:21 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(celica3sgte @ Dec 27, 2004 - 10:21 PM)I...   Dec 27, 2004 - 7:05 PM
- - Punch   I have a stock 5s block that I took apart a some 3...   Dec 27, 2004 - 11:55 PM
- - Junior   If you look at the specs for the 5sfe and 3sgte th...   Dec 28, 2004 - 1:06 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Junior @ Dec 28, 2004 - 6:06 PM)If you ...   Dec 28, 2004 - 2:58 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   geez nm to much trouble imo i think ill just give ...   Dec 28, 2004 - 3:11 PM
- - Supersprynt   can i have it?   Dec 28, 2004 - 3:30 PM
- - thedevilmaycrie   sry shes already spoken for... as long as he buys...   Dec 28, 2004 - 3:32 PM
- - Junior   I don't think people realize that a 2.2 stroke...   Dec 29, 2004 - 5:56 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Junior @ Dec 29, 2004 - 10:56 PM)I don...   Dec 29, 2004 - 10:06 PM
|- - taibones   https://www.rhdjapan.com/home/products/prod...prod...   Mar 2, 2008 - 4:14 PM
- - Junior   what dictates the displacement of a motor? Its bo...   Dec 29, 2004 - 11:23 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Junior @ Dec 30, 2004 - 4:23 AM)what di...   Dec 30, 2004 - 1:40 PM
- - Punch   it's been done look here it's been done ...   Dec 30, 2004 - 12:48 AM
- - 1bwilson   QUOTE(Punch @ Dec 29, 2004 - 10:48 PM)it...   Dec 30, 2004 - 8:51 AM
- - Punch   I will do it to since you know him how can I get i...   Dec 31, 2004 - 2:54 PM
- - 1bwilson   QUOTE(Punch @ Dec 31, 2004 - 12:54 PM)I will ...   Dec 31, 2004 - 3:05 PM
- - Punch   ok cool!!!   Dec 31, 2004 - 4:51 PM
- - Punch   i did this set up with all stock parts an the car ...   Oct 26, 2006 - 8:29 AM
- - 6strngs   http://www.atsracing.net/strokershortblock.htm   Oct 29, 2006 - 7:33 PM
- - Punch   ATS Racing 2.2 Stroker There is no replacement fo...   Nov 10, 2006 - 8:56 PM
- - igotocostco   How much did the stroker kit cost you, Punch? Woul...   Jan 8, 2007 - 9:30 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(igotocostco @ Jan 8, 2007 - 6...   Jan 8, 2007 - 12:39 PM
- - 94_c3lica_gt   I'm dealing with this exact same debate with m...   Nov 20, 2007 - 11:21 PM
- - Kadett   The 5S-FE has a 87mm bore x 91mm stroke = total di...   Nov 21, 2007 - 12:52 PM
- - jazzcornet   i am a die hard MR2 guy and i can tell you from co...   Mar 29, 2008 - 9:27 PM
- - Punch   wow this is still talked about.... look all the g...   Apr 27, 2008 - 3:29 PM


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