 3S-GTE vs modded 5S, just thinking |
 Mar 22, 2003 - 12:31 AM
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i know most people say 3S-GTE because it was made for power...
but just think w/ me for a sec Cost to swap 3S-GTE into a GT: ~$3000(yes i said $3000) Mods for 5S-FE: Camshaft Regrings $500, Guaranteed 30hp(WebCams) Custom Turbo Kit $1200 Spearco Intercooler $1000 that right there should put you right at, if not over the 3S-GTE's horsepower. then an ECU programming would be in line, along with possible lowering of compression and all... just food for thought. any suggestions why the 5S-FE is a bad idea? --------------------  |
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Mar 30, 2003 - 1:42 PM
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well initially, if you turboed the 5sfe it would be cheaper, easier and faster(by faster i dont mean speed wise, although it might be, i mean less down time) and with the upgrades you listed, throw in a thicker head gasket and you should be good to around 12 psi(which is what burien toyota runs there celica at intercooled)
of course the 3sgte and 3sge will always outperform the economy engines we have. another difference besides displacement is the head design and compression ratios. the CR on the 3sge is high and not good for turboing and the 3sgte is either 8.5 on the 1st gen, 8.9 on the second gen, 8.5 on the 3rd gen, and 9.0 on the 4th gen. The heades on all 3sg(t)e engines are geared towards performance and are more free flowing oh and technically, either way you go you will not pass emmisions. the 3sg(t)e engines are clean enough but they lack the emmisions equipment and the 5sfe with all those mods would never pass emissions. the trick is to have a friend with a testing center This post has been edited by 97sccelica: Mar 30, 2003 - 1:48 PM -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Consynx 3S-GTE vs modded 5S Mar 22, 2003 - 12:31 AM
sapperk Did u read my topic? theres a huge debate on this.... Mar 22, 2003 - 12:33 AM Inferno Well...I have one. From what I've learned...th... Mar 22, 2003 - 1:29 AM Benevolence I would go for a modded 5sfe because I live in cal... Mar 22, 2003 - 3:46 AM Mage Also, don't forget that ultimately, you're... Mar 22, 2003 - 4:21 AM FallenHero Look at it like this. The 5s was made for economy... Mar 22, 2003 - 11:53 AM Charlie97L QUOTE (Consynx @ Mar 21, 2003 - 10:31 PM) i know m... Mar 22, 2003 - 11:58 AM 95STCelica Would the 3s-gte really have that much of a proble... Mar 22, 2003 - 12:02 PM No0bOne I'm with mage.
Has anyone done this before? di... Mar 22, 2003 - 4:09 PM FallenHero 320not enough? That's like saying killin vipe... Mar 22, 2003 - 11:03 PM Matthew ok well i haven't posted for a while because m... Mar 22, 2003 - 11:30 PM hioctane QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 22, 2003 - 9:30 PM) ... Mar 22, 2003 - 11:32 PM FallenHero Man, I've not seen Igotta in a while. Mar 23, 2003 - 12:51 AM 95STCelica QUOTE (hioctane @ Mar 22, 2003 - 9:32 PM) QUOTE (i... Mar 23, 2003 - 2:50 PM Matthew *sigh* I know, I am a role model to all the celica... Mar 23, 2003 - 4:21 PM Consynx there is a guy who has 500hp on a 5S-FE
i remember... Mar 23, 2003 - 8:18 PM Consynx Missed a post :-\
there was a comment on the... Mar 23, 2003 - 8:22 PM FallenHero Here is the argument put down about this all the t... Mar 24, 2003 - 1:09 AM No0bOne QUOTE (FallenHero @ Mar 22, 2003 - 9:03 PM) 320not... Mar 24, 2003 - 7:31 AM FallenHero If my car had 320whp, it would kill most any viper... Mar 24, 2003 - 10:43 AM miami305 I would modify a 5s instead of swapping in a 3s-gt... Mar 24, 2003 - 1:12 PM rlan214 cams 30 hp Mar 24, 2003 - 4:52 PM sapperk Im all for the 5 SFE turbo,it makes sense..
so wh... Mar 25, 2003 - 7:04 PM Inferno I'm still going for the 3S-GTE. Mar 25, 2003 - 8:26 PM Matthew the only main difference is that the 5S-FE is a 2.... Mar 29, 2003 - 2:19 PM west_minist Please also remember that there is a 3SGE out ther... Mar 30, 2003 - 8:02 AM Jussimple Ahhhhh, its threads like this that make this site ... Mar 30, 2003 - 10:21 AM Silver94CelicaOwner i would have to say a carefully turboed 5s-fe, or ... Mar 30, 2003 - 12:35 PM jayi12-15psi where can I find web cams? Mar 30, 2003 - 1:03 PM edo17982 http://www.webcamshafts.com Mar 30, 2003 - 1:17 PM Matthew sigh
you can not raise boost pressure by just get... Mar 30, 2003 - 2:16 PM hiflytsi QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 11:30 AM)... Mar 30, 2003 - 2:22 PM Matthew i do have a turbo. but there is no way that i wou... Mar 30, 2003 - 3:33 PM snadman Now now children. Let's not fight.
This engin... Mar 30, 2003 - 4:49 PM TurboCeli heres a building trick that will work and actually... Mar 30, 2003 - 4:56 PM Swifty Not to bash the whole 5sfe idea but the costs are ... Mar 30, 2003 - 6:16 PM presure2 i dont know, guys,...i mean to put it simply, the ... Mar 30, 2003 - 6:33 PM snadman Where are you guys getting these huge horsepower n... Mar 30, 2003 - 10:25 PM Silver94CelicaOwner QUOTE (TurboCeli @ Mar 30, 2003 - 2:10 PM) heres a... Mar 31, 2003 - 12:02 PM hiflytsi QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 12:47 PM)... Mar 31, 2003 - 6:02 PM 97sccelica QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 11:30 AM)... Mar 31, 2003 - 9:28 PM Consynx Snadman/sandman
The 3S-GTE 3rd gen has 255hp that ... Apr 1, 2003 - 11:35 PM celica3sgte This is a very stupid post. A modded 5s-fe(I... Apr 3, 2003 - 2:28 AM 1bwilson End of the summer we'll see what the 5s can do... Apr 3, 2003 - 2:59 AM
FallenHero Your drive shafts will go first. Think of them as... Apr 4, 2003 - 1:03 AM |
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