GT-4 vs GT, extra HP in GT-4 |
GT-4 vs GT, extra HP in GT-4 |
Dec 30, 2004 - 3:20 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 24, '04 From Moscow, russia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You Guy's know all about weight and power ratio's and stuff like that !
so is a stock GT-4 really any more powerful than stock GT ? A GT-4 has 250 ish bhp ! but the extra weight of the fwd running gear and the extra effort required to drive four wheels, over just two wheels a stock GT (SS III) at 210 ish bhp ! i'm probable so wrong but i think the GT has got more power on the road.. So many guy's out here think the GT-4 four is such a quick car, and are supprised when (with my bad driving and such),there's not much in a head to head with a SS III. I raced one of the lights the other week with no real conclusion due to trafffic and road conditions and care of our cars !!!!! on paper in a straight drag, what are the facts, who will be quickest ?? anyone know ?? -------------------- Life is for living, and you don't get a second chance Take care now !! |
Dec 30, 2004 - 11:47 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 21, '04 From Central Valley CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I can think of one big disadvantage to awd taht may have affected your race. Given that teh wheels will not spin under normal conditions, something has to take the pain. Launching under full power the only choice one has is dividing the damage between the clutch and the rest of the drivetrain. So many people would not be inclined to do an ail out launch in their awd car. I know I wouldn't.
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Dec 30, 2004 - 12:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Jehuty @ Dec 30, 2004 - 10:47 AM) I can think of one big disadvantage to awd taht may have affected your race. Given that teh wheels will not spin under normal conditions, something has to take the pain. Launching under full power the only choice one has is dividing the damage between the clutch and the rest of the drivetrain. So many people would not be inclined to do an ail out launch in their awd car. I know I wouldn't. [right][snapback]228211[/snapback][/right] Take the pain? The thing that takes the pain is the road. That and the transmission. However, since the AWD tranny was meant for that, it wont break. I've never seen or heard of anyone in a AWD that broke their trannies because the wheels dont spin. I guess in my experience, I'd be more worried about burning the clutch out in a FWD trying to keep its tires on the road. I just dont see how so many people are bais about an AWD without owning one. An AWD is the biggest beast ever on the streets. The reason the Celica went AWD was because the FWD model couldn't handle the power of the 3SGTE. Simple as that. -Ti |
Dec 30, 2004 - 10:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 21, '04 From Central Valley CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(turboinduction @ Dec 30, 2004 - 12:12 PM) Take the pain? The thing that takes the pain is the road. That and the transmission. However, since the AWD tranny was meant for that, it wont break. I've never seen or heard of anyone in a AWD that broke their trannies because the wheels dont spin. I guess in my experience, I'd be more worried about burning the clutch out in a FWD trying to keep its tires on the road. I just dont see how so many people are bais about an AWD without owning one. An AWD is the biggest beast ever on the streets. The reason the Celica went AWD was because the FWD model couldn't handle the power of the 3SGTE. Simple as that. -Ti [right][snapback]228226[/snapback][/right] The clutch, the tranny, 3 diffs and 4 shafts. Im talking about an all out launch here. The parts are strong, but not indestructable, and even if they don't break immediatly, there is some accelerated wear associated with this kind of treatment. I wouldn't do it to my car! And I think many feel the same. From my experience, the really fast launches from awd cars are produced from hi-rpm clutch dumps. And Ive heard plenty of stories about transmissions getting ruined under these conditions, although Ive never had the pleasure of seeing it in person. =) Even new evo owners are busting halfshafts here and there. Somewhere between a baby start and a full on dump you can still get a good start, but it takes skill, and still isn't as fierce as just abusing the drivetrain. |
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