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post Mar 22, 2003 - 12:31 AM
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i know most people say 3S-GTE because it was made for power...
but just think w/ me for a sec

Cost to swap 3S-GTE into a GT: ~$3000(yes i said $3000)
Mods for 5S-FE:
Camshaft Regrings $500, Guaranteed 30hp(WebCams)
Custom Turbo Kit $1200
Spearco Intercooler $1000
that right there should put you right at, if not over the 3S-GTE's horsepower.
then an ECU programming would be in line, along with possible lowering of compression and all...


just food for thought.
any suggestions why the 5S-FE is a bad idea?


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post Mar 30, 2003 - 6:16 PM
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Not to bash the whole 5sfe idea but the costs are pretty close (plus or minus 1000 right), and you would get a world class racing engine if you went with the 3sgte.
The engines are different past the point that one is a 2.2 L and the other a 2.0 L.
The 3s has internals that rival the Nissan Skyline R34's engine in strength and capacity for horsepower. Also if u go with the 3s and get the 225/255 Hp, and if thats not enough yet (it not enough... its NEVER ENOUGH heh heh heh...) you could always get a nice new boost controller and double the boost there by achieving the HP of the average Supra TT. While on the other hand your 5s would top out somwhere around 300 Hp and blow up a week or so after that. I love the Celica in all its forms but given the choice (by which I mean if I had the cash) I would trade in the 5s for the 3s. But whatever you decide It should be your choice, If you only want an engine with a little more go for every day driving spend a little on a small turbo or mabye get one of the 4A engines (like that exotic 20 valve), but when it come to substituting a turbo 5sfe for a 3sgte its just not worth it

HEY Toyota, How come the celica has such a wimmpy engine. Please give us 200+ for the 7th gen.

Posts in this topic
- Consynx   3S-GTE vs modded 5S   Mar 22, 2003 - 12:31 AM
- - sapperk   Did u read my topic? theres a huge debate on this....   Mar 22, 2003 - 12:33 AM
- - Inferno   Well...I have one. From what I've learned...th...   Mar 22, 2003 - 1:29 AM
- - Benevolence   I would go for a modded 5sfe because I live in cal...   Mar 22, 2003 - 3:46 AM
- - Mage   Also, don't forget that ultimately, you're...   Mar 22, 2003 - 4:21 AM
- - FallenHero   Look at it like this. The 5s was made for economy...   Mar 22, 2003 - 11:53 AM
- - Charlie97L   QUOTE (Consynx @ Mar 21, 2003 - 10:31 PM) i know m...   Mar 22, 2003 - 11:58 AM
- - 95STCelica   Would the 3s-gte really have that much of a proble...   Mar 22, 2003 - 12:02 PM
- - No0bOne   I'm with mage. Has anyone done this before? di...   Mar 22, 2003 - 4:09 PM
- - FallenHero   320not enough? That's like saying killin vipe...   Mar 22, 2003 - 11:03 PM
- - Matthew   ok well i haven't posted for a while because m...   Mar 22, 2003 - 11:30 PM
- - hioctane   QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 22, 2003 - 9:30 PM) ...   Mar 22, 2003 - 11:32 PM
- - FallenHero   Man, I've not seen Igotta in a while.   Mar 23, 2003 - 12:51 AM
- - 95STCelica   QUOTE (hioctane @ Mar 22, 2003 - 9:32 PM) QUOTE (i...   Mar 23, 2003 - 2:50 PM
- - Matthew   *sigh* I know, I am a role model to all the celica...   Mar 23, 2003 - 4:21 PM
- - Consynx   there is a guy who has 500hp on a 5S-FE i remember...   Mar 23, 2003 - 8:18 PM
- - Consynx   Missed a post :-\ there was a comment on the...   Mar 23, 2003 - 8:22 PM
- - FallenHero   Here is the argument put down about this all the t...   Mar 24, 2003 - 1:09 AM
- - No0bOne   QUOTE (FallenHero @ Mar 22, 2003 - 9:03 PM) 320not...   Mar 24, 2003 - 7:31 AM
- - FallenHero   If my car had 320whp, it would kill most any viper...   Mar 24, 2003 - 10:43 AM
- - miami305   I would modify a 5s instead of swapping in a 3s-gt...   Mar 24, 2003 - 1:12 PM
- - rlan214   cams 30 hp   Mar 24, 2003 - 4:52 PM
- - sapperk   Im all for the 5 SFE turbo,it makes sense.. so wh...   Mar 25, 2003 - 7:04 PM
- - Inferno   I'm still going for the 3S-GTE.   Mar 25, 2003 - 8:26 PM
- - Matthew   the only main difference is that the 5S-FE is a 2....   Mar 29, 2003 - 2:19 PM
- - west_minist   Please also remember that there is a 3SGE out ther...   Mar 30, 2003 - 8:02 AM
- - Jussimple   Ahhhhh, its threads like this that make this site ...   Mar 30, 2003 - 10:21 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   i would have to say a carefully turboed 5s-fe, or ...   Mar 30, 2003 - 12:35 PM
- - jayi12-15psi   where can I find web cams?   Mar 30, 2003 - 1:03 PM
- - edo17982   http://www.webcamshafts.com   Mar 30, 2003 - 1:17 PM
- - 97sccelica   well initially, if you turboed the 5sfe it would b...   Mar 30, 2003 - 1:42 PM
- - Matthew   sigh you can not raise boost pressure by just get...   Mar 30, 2003 - 2:16 PM
- - hiflytsi   QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 11:30 AM)...   Mar 30, 2003 - 2:22 PM
- - Matthew   i do have a turbo. but there is no way that i wou...   Mar 30, 2003 - 3:33 PM
- - snadman   Now now children. Let's not fight. This engin...   Mar 30, 2003 - 4:49 PM
- - TurboCeli   heres a building trick that will work and actually...   Mar 30, 2003 - 4:56 PM
- - Swifty   Not to bash the whole 5sfe idea but the costs are ...   Mar 30, 2003 - 6:16 PM
- - presure2   i dont know, guys,...i mean to put it simply, the ...   Mar 30, 2003 - 6:33 PM
- - snadman   Where are you guys getting these huge horsepower n...   Mar 30, 2003 - 10:25 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   QUOTE (TurboCeli @ Mar 30, 2003 - 2:10 PM) heres a...   Mar 31, 2003 - 12:02 PM
- - hiflytsi   QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 12:47 PM)...   Mar 31, 2003 - 6:02 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 11:30 AM)...   Mar 31, 2003 - 9:28 PM
- - Consynx   Snadman/sandman The 3S-GTE 3rd gen has 255hp that ...   Apr 1, 2003 - 11:35 PM
- - celica3sgte   This is a very stupid post. A modded 5s-fe(I...   Apr 3, 2003 - 2:28 AM
- - 1bwilson   End of the summer we'll see what the 5s can do...   Apr 3, 2003 - 2:59 AM
- - FallenHero   Your drive shafts will go first. Think of them as...   Apr 4, 2003 - 1:03 AM


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