GT-4 vs GT, extra HP in GT-4 Options

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You Guy's know all about weight and power ratio's and stuff like that !

so is a stock GT-4 really any more powerful than stock GT ?

A GT-4 has 250 ish bhp ! but the extra weight of the fwd running gear and the extra effort required to drive four wheels,
over just two wheels a stock GT (SS III) at 210 ish bhp !

i'm probable so wrong but i think the GT has got more power on the road..

So many guy's out here think the GT-4 four is such a quick car, and are supprised when (with my bad driving and such),there's not much in a head to head with a SS III.

I raced one of the lights the other week with no real conclusion due to trafffic and road conditions and care of our cars !!!!!

on paper in a straight drag, what are the facts, who will be quickest ??

anyone know ??

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Hi eveybody. Thoudht I'll add my 2 cents to this discussion.

First of - you DO feel VVTi kick in. At least I did. At about 5-6K RPM you really feel it GO.
Then the specs SS-I/SS-II/SS-III/GT-FOUR

Drive: FF/FF/FF/FULL 4WD
Transmission: 5 speed manual/5 speed manual/5 speed manual/5 speed manual
Engine volume (Cubic sentimeters): 1998 / 1998 / 1998 / 1998
Frame: E-ST202-BLMGK / E-ST202-BLMVF / E-ST202-BLMZF / E-ST205-BLMVZ
Price in Tokyo, Yen (x1000) 1813 (~$15100) / 2181 (~$18100) / 2448 (~$20400) / 3302 (~$27500)

Dimensions:

Exterior: (LengthхWidthхHeight), mm 4435 x 1750 x 1305 / 4435 x 1750 x 1305 / 4435 x 1750 x 1305 / 4420 x 1750 x 1305
Interior: (LengthхWidthхHeight), mm 1735 x 1450 x 1100 / 1735 x 1450 x 1100 / 1735 x 1450 x 1100 / 1735 x 1450 x 1100
Wheel base: mm 2535 / 2535 / 2535 / 2535
Distance between front and rear wheels: mm 1510, 1490 / 1510,1490 / 1510,1490 / 1510,1485
Clearence: mm 145 / 145 / 145 / 145
Weight: kg 1160 / 1200 / 1210 / 1390
Turn radius: m 5.2 / 5.2 / 5.5 / 5.6
Fuel tank volume: liters 60 / 60 / 60 / 68

Engine

Volume (cubic centimiters): 1998 / 1998 / 1998 / 1998
Engine type: 3S-FE / 3S-GE / 3S-GE / 3S-GTE
Bhp@rpm: 140 ps (102.97 kw) @ 6000 rpm / 200 ps (147.10 kw)@7000 rpm / 200 ps (147.10 kw)@7000 rpm / 255 ps (187.55 kw)@6000 rpm
Torque: N*m*(kg*m)@rpm: 19.0 kg*m (186.33 N*m)@4400 rpm / 21.0 kg*m (205.94 N*m)@6000 rpm / 21.0 kg*m (205.94 N*m)@6000 rpm / 31.0 kg*m (304.01 N*m)@4000 rpm
Killograms per HP: 8.29 / 6 / 6.05 / 5.45

Engine type Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / IC turbo
Additional engine info: -- / VVT-i / VVT-i / --
Fuel delivery: EFI / EFI / EFI / EFI
Turbo: No / No / No / Turbo with intercooler
Fuel type: Unleaded regular gasoline / Unleaded premium gasoline / Unleaded premium gasoline / Unleaded premium gasoline
Compression: 9.5 / 11 / 11 / 8.5
Piston diameter: mm 86 / 86 / 86 / 86
Stroke (???): mm 86 / 86 / 86 / 86
Fuel consumption (City), liters/100 km (new car): 7.3 / 7.9 / 7.9 / 9.4
Highway, liters/100 km (new car):

Front wheels: 195/65r14 89s / 205/55r15 87v / 205/55r15 87v / 215/50R16 90V
Rear wheels: 195/65r14 89s / 205/55r15 87v / 205/55r15 87v / 215/50R16 90V
Front brakes: Ventilated disk / Ventilated disk / Ventilated disk / Ventilated disk
Rear brakes: Disk / Disk / Disk / Ventilated disk
Suspension type: Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring
Rear suspension: Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring

ABS: yes / yes/ yes / yes
LSD: no / no / yes / yes

AC: Manual / Full automatic / Full automatic / Full automatic

Sorry for my bad english or any mistakes in translation.

So as you can all see the GT-FOUR has half a killogram of weight less per HP from its closest competitor the SSIII.

So Peter don't worry you have a great car. But we can trade cars if you want

[Kwanza26]

Hi eveybody. Thoudht I'll add my 2 cents to this discussion.

First of - you DO feel VVTi kick in. At least I did. At about 5-6K RPM you really feel it GO.
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Good info... I'll have to add this to my files... ;]

HOWEVER... you do not feel VVT-i "kick"... VVT-i is on as soon as 2000 rpms and is constantly on and adjusting... ;] Pulling harder on the top-end is the normal action of a sporty engine.