GT-4 vs GT, extra HP in GT-4 Options

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You Guy's know all about weight and power ratio's and stuff like that !

so is a stock GT-4 really any more powerful than stock GT ?

A GT-4 has 250 ish bhp ! but the extra weight of the fwd running gear and the extra effort required to drive four wheels,
over just two wheels a stock GT (SS III) at 210 ish bhp !

i'm probable so wrong but i think the GT has got more power on the road..

So many guy's out here think the GT-4 four is such a quick car, and are supprised when (with my bad driving and such),there's not much in a head to head with a SS III.

I raced one of the lights the other week with no real conclusion due to trafffic and road conditions and care of our cars !!!!!

on paper in a straight drag, what are the facts, who will be quickest ??

anyone know ??

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Hi eveybody. Thoudht I'll add my 2 cents to this discussion.

First of - you DO feel VVTi kick in. At least I did. At about 5-6K RPM you really feel it GO.
Then the specs SS-I/SS-II/SS-III/GT-FOUR

Drive: FF/FF/FF/FULL 4WD
Transmission: 5 speed manual/5 speed manual/5 speed manual/5 speed manual
Engine volume (Cubic sentimeters): 1998 / 1998 / 1998 / 1998
Frame: E-ST202-BLMGK / E-ST202-BLMVF / E-ST202-BLMZF / E-ST205-BLMVZ
Price in Tokyo, Yen (x1000) 1813 (~$15100) / 2181 (~$18100) / 2448 (~$20400) / 3302 (~$27500)

Dimensions:

Exterior: (LengthхWidthхHeight), mm 4435 x 1750 x 1305 / 4435 x 1750 x 1305 / 4435 x 1750 x 1305 / 4420 x 1750 x 1305
Interior: (LengthхWidthхHeight), mm 1735 x 1450 x 1100 / 1735 x 1450 x 1100 / 1735 x 1450 x 1100 / 1735 x 1450 x 1100
Wheel base: mm 2535 / 2535 / 2535 / 2535
Distance between front and rear wheels: mm 1510, 1490 / 1510,1490 / 1510,1490 / 1510,1485
Clearence: mm 145 / 145 / 145 / 145
Weight: kg 1160 / 1200 / 1210 / 1390
Turn radius: m 5.2 / 5.2 / 5.5 / 5.6
Fuel tank volume: liters 60 / 60 / 60 / 68

Engine

Volume (cubic centimiters): 1998 / 1998 / 1998 / 1998
Engine type: 3S-FE / 3S-GE / 3S-GE / 3S-GTE
Bhp@rpm: 140 ps (102.97 kw) @ 6000 rpm / 200 ps (147.10 kw)@7000 rpm / 200 ps (147.10 kw)@7000 rpm / 255 ps (187.55 kw)@6000 rpm
Torque: N*m*(kg*m)@rpm: 19.0 kg*m (186.33 N*m)@4400 rpm / 21.0 kg*m (205.94 N*m)@6000 rpm / 21.0 kg*m (205.94 N*m)@6000 rpm / 31.0 kg*m (304.01 N*m)@4000 rpm
Killograms per HP: 8.29 / 6 / 6.05 / 5.45

Engine type Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve / IC turbo
Additional engine info: -- / VVT-i / VVT-i / --
Fuel delivery: EFI / EFI / EFI / EFI
Turbo: No / No / No / Turbo with intercooler
Fuel type: Unleaded regular gasoline / Unleaded premium gasoline / Unleaded premium gasoline / Unleaded premium gasoline
Compression: 9.5 / 11 / 11 / 8.5
Piston diameter: mm 86 / 86 / 86 / 86
Stroke (???): mm 86 / 86 / 86 / 86
Fuel consumption (City), liters/100 km (new car): 7.3 / 7.9 / 7.9 / 9.4
Highway, liters/100 km (new car):

Front wheels: 195/65r14 89s / 205/55r15 87v / 205/55r15 87v / 215/50R16 90V
Rear wheels: 195/65r14 89s / 205/55r15 87v / 205/55r15 87v / 215/50R16 90V
Front brakes: Ventilated disk / Ventilated disk / Ventilated disk / Ventilated disk
Rear brakes: Disk / Disk / Disk / Ventilated disk
Suspension type: Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring
Rear suspension: Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring / Strut type coil spring

ABS: yes / yes/ yes / yes
LSD: no / no / yes / yes

AC: Manual / Full automatic / Full automatic / Full automatic

Sorry for my bad english or any mistakes in translation.

So as you can all see the GT-FOUR has half a killogram of weight less per HP from its closest competitor the SSIII.

So Peter don't worry you have a great car. But we can trade cars if you want

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Sorry for my bad english or any mistakes in translation.

So as you can all see the GT-FOUR has half a killogram of weight less per HP from its closest competitor the SSIII.

So Peter don't worry you have a great car. But we can trade cars if you want     
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Hey buddy, don't worry about the translation...
it's better than mine is the other way

yeah that's the info i wanted guy's, now we all know the numbers for 'stock' cars, as trying to work out anything with cars that have been tuned is just not going to happen.....

yeah Zhenya, you can drive my baby, no problems at all with that, but lets what for the summer to arrange the promised race