want 3s-gte motor Options

[blaque_6thGen]

Hey, guys. Right now I have a 1997 ST with 7a-fe, auto transmission. I want to do a complete conversion to a 3s-gte, manual transmission. I was wondering if anyone has a 3s-gte motor that they are trying to sell or if they know of a place that i can get one. Thanks guys!

This post has been edited by blaque_6thGen: Feb 8, 2005 - 2:05 PM

[blaque_6thGen]

hey, thanks guys. In the midst of what seems like your bickering, i'm learning a lot. Despite the fact that i think that both of you have great arguments, I still think that I want to go with the 3s for quality of reputation and hp. I'm not afraid to sacrifice the compromise (som extra dinero) to make this car be what it could potentially be. The 3s-gte is an originall from the celica (just a GT-4) and thats kinda how I imagined it...plus, I like the turbo.

On that thought, I hear that there is a now turbo in the process of being designed for the 3s. With the oppotunities that the 3s presents me it seems to be the better choice although, if I didn't have the income (my job pays me well) the 4a sounds like the top choice for my dollar. I just don't want to regret anything after I bought and installed an engine and found out that if i waited another two months I could have gotten a "better" one.

[Mr2swift]

hey,  thanks guys. In the midst of what seems like your bickering, i'm learning a lot. Despite the fact that i think that both of you have great arguments, I still think that I want to go with the 3s for quality of reputation and hp.  I'm not afraid to sacrifice the compromise (som extra dinero) to make this car be what it could potentially be. The 3s-gte is an originall from the celica (just a GT-4) and thats kinda how I imagined it...plus, I like the turbo. 

On that thought, I hear that there is a now turbo in the process of being designed for the 3s. With the oppotunities that the 3s presents me it seems to be the better choice although, if I didn't have the income (my job pays me well) the 4a sounds like the top choice for my dollar.  I just don't want to regret anything after I bought and installed an engine and found out that if i waited another two months I could have gotten a "better" one.
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3sgte will yeild the greater gains for certain. Here is something everyone should know about the 2nd gen 3sgte from the Celica. It is now very hard to bring in a good conition 2nd gen Celica. There are more 2nd gen Mr2's available which gives one a better chance of getting a 2nd gen 3sgte in better shape. But the bottom line is you are looking at an engine that almost NEVER will come into the states on stock boost. MOST 3sgte's in the Celica have ran more then stock boost and are now 12-15 years old. Folks, that equals not alot of Prestine 2nd gen Celicas going around and from what I have seen ALOT of Celica clips and engines coming in from the states are just beat to crap physically. Now that does not meant it will not have good compression, but it is wise to completely recondition the 2nd gen 3sgte from the Celica. It is very possible to come across a low mileage clean one, but they are becoming harder and harder to bring in in this fashion.

Ae101 4agze's are made from 92-96 and interesting enough most will come in on stock boost as most have not overspin the blower resulting in the condition of the engine not run as hard as the boosted 3sgte. This is a fact folks and I would love to debate it if anyone wishes to. Bottom line in my opinion is either go 3rd gen 3sgte or deal with a reputable importer if they offer you a 2nd gen 3sgte as it is hard to find them in good shape. Remember, drifting and road racing is the norm in Japan and therefor Celicas get road raced pretty good.

Ron

If I get a 2nd gen 3sgte in desirable shape I will let the list know.

Thanks