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post Feb 11, 2005 - 10:40 PM
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i need to buy adjustable shocks for my car, something good, if possible something that replaces the old ones, i would like to avoid inserts if i can. whats a good brand, and wheres a cheap place to get them... iam buying the eibach pro kit 1 inch drop for $201

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post Feb 18, 2005 - 11:56 PM
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i beg to differ my KYB gr2 are better then the stock struts we are given
but not as great as koni

i suggest kyb gr2 in the rear (what i have)
then Koni in the front that should do a great job
post Feb 19, 2005 - 1:16 AM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 19, 2005 - 4:56 AM)
i beg to differ my KYB gr2 are better then the stock struts we are given
but not as great as koni

i suggest kyb gr2 in the rear (what i have)
then Koni in the front that should do a great job
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Based on what? They're marketed, designed and sold as replacement inserts... No where in the packaging says they're performance shocks or that they change the dampening characteristics of the stock shocks... Given they are better than "old" stock shocks... but not better than "new" stock shocks...

FYI... with Mina's current power (300+ hp)... a softer rear is NOT gonna help him with traction. Your suggestion of GR2's in the rear and Konis in the front... will dramatically hurt the car's ability to stand and launch. It's typically the exact opposite in terms of traction on FWD cars.
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Kwanza26 , its gonna be a 500 hp celica... do you think iam gonna use it to race ?i need the koni adjustables, but i cant afford them, iam just gonna get the ebach pro kit and the kyb 2 struts...

Adjustable shocks are for road racing. Are you telling me that's what you're looking to build/do? Or are you just wanting a nicer ride with maybe some weekend fun? They're not cheap for a reason. I'm just letting you know to save you some money. Prokit isn't exactly a race spring... hence leads be to think you just want a nicer ride with lowering springs. Adjustables don't really ride any nicer than replacement shocks because they were designed for performance, which typically means stiffer shocks. They may very well ride worse. That being said... you don't "need" adjustables... you "want" them perhaps...

My reccomendation... if you're gonna go track, go full coils with adjustable inserts (cheaper method) or full adjustable with dampening (expensive). If it's just some minor fun, a simple lowering kit, which typically increases the spring rates, mated to new shocks is more than enough. Eibach wouldn't be my first choice (too soft for me) but with our limited choices... that's fine. If you're gonna go drag... full adjustable front is nice if you want to adjust every now and then to run drag slicks or something. The trick is with the stiffness. When the car launches, it squats to the rear causeing the weight to shift off of the drive wheels momentarily. With the power you're currently making... that hurts the launch because if you ease the throttle, you lose boost and/or bog the engine. Too much throttle, you burn out. Run hard race springs in the rear (very stiff) and something softer in the front to reduce the weight shift. Not that it matters now... just FYI for future refrence. That would be my idea of a race set-up...

When it's all said and done... we drive the car. Choose what fits you best. I'm actually running some fairly hard springs (KG/MM 6.8kg fronts and 4.8kg rear) and when mated to Gr2s... they ride fine. A bit stiff... but fine. Eibach prokit is not anywhere near as hard as mine... so you shouldn't have much to worry about.


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