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post Feb 27, 2005 - 11:46 PM
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Ok, over the past few months i've been gathering parts for a 1mzfe swap. I finally have everything But the ecu, but that's not a big deal. I know the motor will fit, that's not the issue. And i don't want to make huge power 280-300hp at the most.

But here's the delima, i have everything for the 4age head converison. I would like eventually to go turbo and the 1m is not going to leave a lot of room for this, unless i go crazy on the engine bay, and piping will be a pita. Plus the turbo 7age has already been done and has sources for reliabilty, where as the 1m really is not a heavily document motor as to it's abilities.

Now my question to you guys is if given a choice, with a goal of 300hp which would you choose?


this is something i am going to complete over time, since the celica is no longer a dd, and i work almost continously, hopefully by late summer it'll be done.
 
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post Mar 1, 2005 - 12:41 PM
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truth, a dyno would have been great.

I'd have my crank crayo treated. I hear it greatly improves te strength of heavy wear rotating parts. I would also think about having the rods pistons and bearings treated.

For big boost I would also step up the 82mm pistons.

250+ hp with 8-1 compression means LOTS of boost. That is no problem with good pistons and rods... I would definitly look into your options as to the crank though. New studs all over the block also are important.(mostly head studs) and don't skimp on a cheaper head gasket. For Serious boost and high power aplications I would go HKS or TRD or somehting made for the power. Copper... I would dodge. It might work, but I would rather know I didn't buy the cheapest. The same goes for the exhaust manifold. i don't really know which you are going to use, However: HKS does make a manifold for the 4ag. I think it supports a T-25 or something... I am sure it can be made to hold a T-3 hybrid... or you can get a custom equal length from somewhere.

If you go largeport head I would try and build a custom largeport intake manifold. Instead of eight runners I would use four huge really short runners with a large TB. Not to mention a BIG Honkin intercooler. This is another place that you cannot afford to skimp. When running high boost I would have a water sprayer that woudl kick in at given RPM's. you should PM me and I will help you build one. I have all these good ideas you know.smile.gif

hrm... evil clutch also needed... Monsta injectors... what size are you going to use?

I would have a regular exhaust system (3ish inch) with proper resonators and muffler for regular driving, but I would install a remote exhaust bypass valve for high horsepower high boost levels.

Also I would MOST CERTAINLY invest in a wideband O2 sensor.

I have a really nice Autometer dual imput temperature sensor set up I can sell you if you want it. They are like $300 new. I'd let you have it for $100 shipped or something. They (two of them:dual imput) read up to 400. Most people use them to guage intake temp. I was going to use it as a intake and piro meter though. wink.gif

Anything I can help you with man, just let me know.

Jon

Posts in this topic
- Einhander   Needed input   Feb 27, 2005 - 11:46 PM
- - Jaemus   depends, the 1mz is gonna give you instant power a...   Feb 27, 2005 - 11:56 PM
- - FallenHero   QUOTE(Einhander @ Feb 27, 2005 - 9:46 PM)Ok, ...   Feb 28, 2005 - 12:33 AM
- - Yota   what car came with a 1mzfe? I've never heard ...   Feb 28, 2005 - 12:40 AM
- - Einhander   i am going want to go turbo because i already have...   Feb 28, 2005 - 12:49 AM
- - FallenHero   Well, that is true. The 7ag will be MUCH less wor...   Feb 28, 2005 - 12:54 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Feb 28, 2005 - 5:54 AM)the...   Feb 28, 2005 - 1:40 AM
|- - nik   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Feb 27, 2005 - 10:54 PM)We...   Feb 28, 2005 - 11:03 AM
- - Einhander   From what i've seen and read, the 7agte can re...   Feb 28, 2005 - 1:24 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(Einhander @ Feb 28, 2005 - 11:24 AM)Fro...   Feb 28, 2005 - 1:54 PM
- - FallenHero   people have been throwing around that link for yea...   Feb 28, 2005 - 4:54 PM
- - vangSTa_celica   @ nik byuss -- bias You were way off.   Feb 28, 2005 - 4:59 PM
|- - nik   hey Fallen i think 250 whp is a streetable applic...   Feb 28, 2005 - 5:03 PM
|- - FallenHero   QUOTE(nik @ Feb 28, 2005 - 3:03 PM)hey Fallen...   Feb 28, 2005 - 10:57 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Feb 28, 2005 - 8:57 PM)QUO...   Mar 1, 2005 - 10:39 AM
- - vangSTa_celica   Anyways... http://engr.ucsb.edu/~warped/projects/...   Feb 28, 2005 - 5:06 PM
|- - Einhander   QUOTE(vangSTa_celica @ Feb 28, 2005 - 10:06 P...   Feb 28, 2005 - 11:37 PM
- - vangSTa_celica   Really? That took me two seconds to find. Google...   Mar 1, 2005 - 12:01 AM
- - Einhander   Oh i will try it, just depends on what needs to be...   Mar 1, 2005 - 12:47 AM
- - FallenHero   truth, a dyno would have been great. I'd have...   Mar 1, 2005 - 12:41 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Mar 1, 2005 - 10:41 AM)tru...   Mar 1, 2005 - 1:50 PM
- - macavely   i would go with the 7a... simply because i like th...   Mar 1, 2005 - 12:45 PM
- - FallenHero   OOOk. Compression wise... 8-1 is great for high...   Mar 1, 2005 - 4:54 PM
- - Kwanza26   Lots of stuff here... First off, the intake man...   Mar 1, 2005 - 7:56 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Mar 1, 2005 - 5:56 PM)First ...   Mar 2, 2005 - 10:55 AM
- - FallenHero   http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=99162...   Mar 1, 2005 - 8:31 PM
- - FallenHero   I would go on www.club4ag.com and see what they us...   Mar 2, 2005 - 8:26 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Mar 2, 2005 - 6:26 PM)I wo...   Mar 3, 2005 - 11:43 AM
- - DustyBurns30   in my opinion, if you want to make huge amounts of...   Mar 5, 2005 - 3:22 PM
- - FallenHero   well, the 7a block is fairly stout, but true enoug...   Mar 6, 2005 - 7:12 PM


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