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post Feb 27, 2005 - 11:46 PM
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Ok, over the past few months i've been gathering parts for a 1mzfe swap. I finally have everything But the ecu, but that's not a big deal. I know the motor will fit, that's not the issue. And i don't want to make huge power 280-300hp at the most.

But here's the delima, i have everything for the 4age head converison. I would like eventually to go turbo and the 1m is not going to leave a lot of room for this, unless i go crazy on the engine bay, and piping will be a pita. Plus the turbo 7age has already been done and has sources for reliabilty, where as the 1m really is not a heavily document motor as to it's abilities.

Now my question to you guys is if given a choice, with a goal of 300hp which would you choose?


this is something i am going to complete over time, since the celica is no longer a dd, and i work almost continously, hopefully by late summer it'll be done.
 
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post Mar 1, 2005 - 4:54 PM
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OOOk.

Compression wise... 8-1 is great for high boost... it is. However. when you are in traffic and you are not in the right power band (no real boost) your car will be hella slugish. like... 60hp under the hood. You might talk to quanza about it, I am sure he has experiance, but I would go for the 8.5 at least.

For the intercooler sprayer i would go to a junk yard and find a really new car. Pop the hood and take the windshield washer pump.

Rig up some sort of reservoir under your hood and run a line from it to the washer pum you got. (wire it to a dash switch or in the case I described above, to a RPM activated switch like a shift light or something off of E-bay.) Run the water to some sort of sprayer near the intercooler. you can regulate the pressure it puts out via a ressistor of some sort.

Wham, works like a charm.

the 440 injectors will work until you get the car running right.

For the manifold....I am strictly speculating and have NO first hand knowledge of anybody doing this. That said... Talk to kwanza or go to www.club4ag.com and find a 8 runner manifold. Go to a good shop and get yourself a plasma cutter to work with. wink.gif

Cut the center divide out of the runners so there is, in essence, one big runner. Then weld a plate on top and bottom ... welding on a cast manifold.. hrm... Give me time to think on this one.

The exhaust set up is much cheaper than you would think. I just don't have the link on me right now. frown.gif

all for now.

Ah yes, the crank. I have read somewhere that the 1zz crank will work in one way or another. I am going to research that as soon as I have time. There is lots of speculation, but no hard answers.

Now, that is all for now.

Later

jon

Posts in this topic
- Einhander   Needed input   Feb 27, 2005 - 11:46 PM
- - Jaemus   depends, the 1mz is gonna give you instant power a...   Feb 27, 2005 - 11:56 PM
- - FallenHero   QUOTE(Einhander @ Feb 27, 2005 - 9:46 PM)Ok, ...   Feb 28, 2005 - 12:33 AM
- - Yota   what car came with a 1mzfe? I've never heard ...   Feb 28, 2005 - 12:40 AM
- - Einhander   i am going want to go turbo because i already have...   Feb 28, 2005 - 12:49 AM
- - FallenHero   Well, that is true. The 7ag will be MUCH less wor...   Feb 28, 2005 - 12:54 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Feb 28, 2005 - 5:54 AM)the...   Feb 28, 2005 - 1:40 AM
|- - nik   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Feb 27, 2005 - 10:54 PM)We...   Feb 28, 2005 - 11:03 AM
- - Einhander   From what i've seen and read, the 7agte can re...   Feb 28, 2005 - 1:24 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(Einhander @ Feb 28, 2005 - 11:24 AM)Fro...   Feb 28, 2005 - 1:54 PM
- - FallenHero   people have been throwing around that link for yea...   Feb 28, 2005 - 4:54 PM
- - vangSTa_celica   @ nik byuss -- bias You were way off.   Feb 28, 2005 - 4:59 PM
|- - nik   hey Fallen i think 250 whp is a streetable applic...   Feb 28, 2005 - 5:03 PM
|- - FallenHero   QUOTE(nik @ Feb 28, 2005 - 3:03 PM)hey Fallen...   Feb 28, 2005 - 10:57 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Feb 28, 2005 - 8:57 PM)QUO...   Mar 1, 2005 - 10:39 AM
- - vangSTa_celica   Anyways... http://engr.ucsb.edu/~warped/projects/...   Feb 28, 2005 - 5:06 PM
|- - Einhander   QUOTE(vangSTa_celica @ Feb 28, 2005 - 10:06 P...   Feb 28, 2005 - 11:37 PM
- - vangSTa_celica   Really? That took me two seconds to find. Google...   Mar 1, 2005 - 12:01 AM
- - Einhander   Oh i will try it, just depends on what needs to be...   Mar 1, 2005 - 12:47 AM
- - FallenHero   truth, a dyno would have been great. I'd have...   Mar 1, 2005 - 12:41 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Mar 1, 2005 - 10:41 AM)tru...   Mar 1, 2005 - 1:50 PM
- - macavely   i would go with the 7a... simply because i like th...   Mar 1, 2005 - 12:45 PM
- - FallenHero   OOOk. Compression wise... 8-1 is great for high...   Mar 1, 2005 - 4:54 PM
- - Kwanza26   Lots of stuff here... First off, the intake man...   Mar 1, 2005 - 7:56 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Mar 1, 2005 - 5:56 PM)First ...   Mar 2, 2005 - 10:55 AM
- - FallenHero   http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=99162...   Mar 1, 2005 - 8:31 PM
- - FallenHero   I would go on www.club4ag.com and see what they us...   Mar 2, 2005 - 8:26 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(FallenHero @ Mar 2, 2005 - 6:26 PM)I wo...   Mar 3, 2005 - 11:43 AM
- - DustyBurns30   in my opinion, if you want to make huge amounts of...   Mar 5, 2005 - 3:22 PM
- - FallenHero   well, the 7a block is fairly stout, but true enoug...   Mar 6, 2005 - 7:12 PM


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