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post Mar 7, 2005 - 6:59 PM
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hey guys, I was just wondering, how much difference would you feel between using stock 15 inch rims and 17 inch rims (not chrome or lightweight performance) such as the adr gt sports? Anybody who switched from stocks to 17 inchers, please tell me what difference you felt (how much slower). Also, anybody with track experience, what is the difference in quarter mile from stock 15 inchers and 17 inchers? Anybody with input please........uh.. input? haha! biggrin.gif yeah, well thanks! (sorry if this is stupid question) frown.gif
 
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post Mar 9, 2005 - 9:23 AM
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Here is the bottom line: Your performance will suffer if you switch from 15's to 17's. When you displace the mass of the very outside of your rim from 7.5 inches (15's) to 8.5 inches (17's) from the center of the hub, it requires your car to work harder to rotate the wheel. (I don't remember the equation, so I can't tell you how much since I brain dumped all that after college...) Another area of concern which has prevented me from upgrading my wheels, is that if you calculate the sidewall height, I have not been able to find a rim and sidewall height that exactly matches the total diameter of my current 15's (with tires mounted). They all go up by a bit. This will change your speedometer anywhere from 5 to 10% depending on what you do. A lot of people upgrade their wheels, and I haven't yet heard of anyone having their speedometer recalibrated, so people who have done that are slightly off on their speedometer and odometer. You're actually going slightly faster, and slightly farther than indicated on your gauge. Until I find a mechanic who can recalibrate my speedometer when I upgrade the wheels, I'm just going to stick with the stock 15's. Anyone ever have that done?
post Mar 9, 2005 - 9:38 AM
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QUOTE(94GT @ Mar 9, 2005 - 9:23 AM)
Another area of concern  which has prevented me from upgrading my wheels, is that if you calculate the sidewall height, I have not been able to find a rim and sidewall height that exactly matches the total diameter of my current 15's (with tires mounted).  They all go up by a bit.  This will change your speedometer anywhere from 5 to 10% depending on what you do.  A lot of people upgrade their wheels, and I haven't yet heard of anyone having their speedometer recalibrated, so people who have done that are slightly off on their speedometer and odometer.  You're actually going slightly faster, and slightly farther than indicated on your gauge.  Until I find a mechanic who can recalibrate my speedometer when I upgrade the wheels, I'm just going to stick with the stock 15's.  Anyone ever have that done?
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You are incorrect on the 5-10% figure. You can use 205/50/16's or 205/45/17's and your speedometer will read .6% or 1.6% too slow respectively. That means when your speedometer reads 60mph, you will actually be doing 60.36 mph with the 16's or 60.96 mph with the 17's.



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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

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- gnetik   Rims size   Mar 7, 2005 - 6:59 PM
- - jgreening   If you keep the outside diameter of the tires the ...   Mar 7, 2005 - 7:07 PM
- - Coomer   There is actually a difference in speed, since som...   Mar 7, 2005 - 7:12 PM
- - jgreening   True but he didn't mention weight - only size.   Mar 7, 2005 - 7:35 PM
- - gnetik   oh, I see. The reason I asked was because I want t...   Mar 7, 2005 - 8:46 PM
- - CheesyLobster   Actually, acording to physics and the laws of ener...   Mar 8, 2005 - 2:34 AM
- - jgreening   Cheesy, your science is correct but the "more...   Mar 8, 2005 - 2:54 AM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 7, 2005 - 11:54 PM)Chee...   Mar 8, 2005 - 3:26 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Coomer @ Mar 8, 2005 - 3:26 AM)QUOTE(jg...   Mar 8, 2005 - 3:31 AM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 8, 2005 - 12:31 AM)QUOT...   Mar 8, 2005 - 12:10 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Coomer @ Mar 8, 2005 - 12:10 PM)QUOTE(j...   Mar 8, 2005 - 12:28 PM
- - Coomer   Well yeah, I wouldn't drop $2,500 on thos...   Mar 8, 2005 - 12:34 PM
|- - Mr_E   Removing rotational mass is a very very very good ...   Mar 8, 2005 - 8:46 PM
- - Coomer   Why didn't they fit on your car Mr. E?   Mar 8, 2005 - 9:07 PM
- - Hanyo   remember coomer.. it had problems clearing the gt4...   Mar 8, 2005 - 9:10 PM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(Hanyo @ Mar 8, 2005 - 6:10 PM)remember ...   Mar 8, 2005 - 11:06 PM
|- - Mr_E   QUOTE(Coomer @ Mar 8, 2005 - 11:06 PM)QUOTE(H...   Mar 8, 2005 - 11:33 PM
- - gnetik   Oh, I see, so what all you guys are sayin is that ...   Mar 8, 2005 - 9:53 PM
- - Consynx   well i dont know if motegi's are the best for ...   Mar 9, 2005 - 1:08 AM
- - Kwanza26   I don't know where you guys are getting your s...   Mar 9, 2005 - 4:09 AM
- - Mr_E   Agreed. To get aftermarket wheels that are lighter...   Mar 9, 2005 - 4:15 AM
- - 94GT   Here is the bottom line: Your performance will su...   Mar 9, 2005 - 9:23 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(94GT @ Mar 9, 2005 - 9:23 AM)Another ar...   Mar 9, 2005 - 9:38 AM
|- - Mr_E   QUOTE(94GT @ Mar 9, 2005 - 9:23 AM)Here is th...   Mar 9, 2005 - 4:54 PM
- - SlowCelica94   They are 15 lbs....   Mar 9, 2005 - 11:50 AM
- - Coomer   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Mar 9, 2005 - 1:09 AM)I don...   Mar 9, 2005 - 11:58 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Coomer @ Mar 9, 2005 - 4:58 PM)What wou...   Mar 9, 2005 - 12:06 PM
- - Consynx   just wanted to back my comment up...lol 19lbs is ...   Mar 9, 2005 - 12:15 PM
- - gnetik   Less sidewall flex is better because of less flex ...   Mar 9, 2005 - 5:56 PM
- - Mr_E   Good list. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why...   Mar 9, 2005 - 6:54 PM


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