 Convertibles- Are they really reinforced? |
 Mar 10, 2005 - 6:36 PM
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I own a 95 GT Convertible. Little did I know when I opened the door panel, it had a sticker saying top was installed in california. I then found out all the celica's came oversees with hardtops- then chopped off in the states and made into a convertible. This sounds very shady. I have a tough time believing toyota actually reinforced the structure as well. Ive has so many problems with the "aftermarket" convertible. If I knew toyota outsourced this to some company, I would have never bought this convertible. The fact is was a hard top transformed into convertible makes me wonder how safe the car really is..
Can anyone confirm celica was reinforced?? |
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Mar 10, 2005 - 9:48 PM
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Wow. I have never seen a thread with so much misinformation - well maybe threads discussing the mr2t tranny for the 3s swap
 . ASC stands for American Specialty Cars. The name was changed in January of 2004 from American Sunroof Corporation. It is a Michigan business. They did chop the coupe and make it a convertible and they did it in a California plant (Pomona, I believe). I know of no federal requirements for chopping cars and making them convertibles. There are federal safety requirements that apply to all new cars sold including ones that are chopped by another company for the OEM. I do not know if the government regulates things like ridgity though - I would doubt it does. There are no differences in the doors and there are no extra rails that are added to the bottom of the car. There were no structural modifications that were done in front of the lock pillar (where the door latches to the car by the lock). Most of the structural modifications were done to support the roof and to limit chassis flex. The Saturn Skye and other cars like the vette, boxster, z4, etc were DESIGNED as convertibles. There was no chop job so the ridgity is better. Finally, there is NO WAY that the A pillar is designed to hold up if the car rolls. The fact of the matter is that 6th gen convertibles were not designed as performance cars. So, if you do something crazy like swap a 3s in a convertible, please drive safely.... -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Mar 10, 2005 - 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 10, 2005 - 9:48 PM) Wow. I have never seen a thread with so much misinformation [right][snapback]255865[/snapback][/right] Well I dont know if you are refering to me or not but I got my information from Toyotas own Website covering the History of the Celica from its first production in 1971 to the current version if its not correct then Ooops my bad for copying it and posting it here. |
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Mar 10, 2005 - 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(Insanity-74 @ Mar 10, 2005 - 11:27 PM) QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 10, 2005 - 9:48 PM) Wow. I have never seen a thread with so much misinformation [right][snapback]255865[/snapback][/right] Well I dont know if you are refering to me or not but I got my information from Toyotas own Website covering the History of the Celica from its first production in 1971 to the current version if its not correct then Ooops my bad for copying it and posting it here. [right][snapback]255900[/snapback][/right] Wasn't referring to you. If you got it from Toyota, how could it be misinformation? -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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nitemare Convertibles- Are they really reinforced? Mar 10, 2005 - 6:36 PM
madmods QUOTE(nitemare @ Mar 10, 2005 - 11:36 PM)I ow... Mar 10, 2005 - 6:51 PM
saleeka And yes Coomer you are right- there are 202 verts,... Mar 10, 2005 - 10:02 PM jgreening QUOTE(saleeka @ Mar 10, 2005 - 10:02 PM)And y... Mar 10, 2005 - 10:17 PM Coomer Are you sure that they were shipped over here as c... Mar 10, 2005 - 6:51 PM madmods QUOTE(Coomer @ Mar 10, 2005 - 11:51 PM)Are yo... Mar 10, 2005 - 6:54 PM shid Coomer, ASC is in Arizona. They were shipped here ... Mar 10, 2005 - 7:48 PM 2003cbgts dont mean to hijack this thread, but how durable i... Mar 10, 2005 - 9:07 PM Insanity-74 All convertables arrive in the US as hard tops, th... Mar 10, 2005 - 9:31 PM saleeka A company called Griffen (sp) made the 2nd gen. co... Mar 10, 2005 - 9:39 PM DamDirtyApes but why put a roof on only to cut it off..? Mar 10, 2005 - 9:43 PM madmods QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 11, 2005 - 2:48 AM)Wow.... Mar 10, 2005 - 10:02 PM jgreening QUOTEI cant agree with you on the rails in the bot... Mar 10, 2005 - 10:15 PM madmods QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 11, 2005 - 3:15 AM)QUOT... Mar 10, 2005 - 10:49 PM jgreening QUOTE(madmods @ Mar 10, 2005 - 10:49 PM)QUOTE... Mar 10, 2005 - 10:52 PM madmods QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 11, 2005 - 3:52 AM)QUOT... Mar 10, 2005 - 11:21 PM nitemare QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 10, 2005 - 7:48 PM)... Mar 11, 2005 - 1:23 PM jgreening QUOTE(nitemare @ Mar 11, 2005 - 1:23 PM)QUOTE... Mar 11, 2005 - 1:48 PM nitemare Do you have a 95-97 nightmare or 98-99? The reaso... Mar 11, 2005 - 4:38 PM madmods
95 is the year I got..So I guess toyota noticed ... Mar 12, 2005 - 12:51 AM blu94gt
95 is the year I got..So I guess toyota noticed ... Apr 3, 2005 - 2:27 AM saleeka ha thanks... If you have model breakdown/history/e... Mar 10, 2005 - 10:32 PM orvillescelica im not part of any arguement on the rigidity of th... Mar 10, 2005 - 11:18 PM jgreening I will post them. I want to say one more thing to... Mar 10, 2005 - 11:21 PM Drocay QUOTE(madmods @ Mar 10, 2005 - 10:49 PM)The p... Mar 10, 2005 - 11:22 PM madmods QUOTE(Drocay @ Mar 11, 2005 - 4:22 AM)QUOTE(m... Mar 10, 2005 - 11:31 PM madmods Hey, I found this pic after a lot of looking. Ther... Mar 10, 2005 - 11:46 PM jgreening QUOTEHey, I found this pic after a lot of looking.... Mar 10, 2005 - 11:49 PM madmods QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 11, 2005 - 4:49 AM)QUOT... Mar 11, 2005 - 12:17 AM shid ASC is NOT in Arizona? Where in gods name did I ge... Mar 11, 2005 - 12:28 AM madmods QUOTE(shid @ Mar 11, 2005 - 5:28 AM)ASC is NO... Mar 11, 2005 - 12:29 AM saleeka ok- here is a pic of my car that has the best view... Mar 11, 2005 - 1:15 AM Drocay yup, thats it thats wut i was talking about. Mar 11, 2005 - 1:24 AM madmods Thanks for the pics bro. Thats not the bar Im talk... Mar 11, 2005 - 1:31 AM madmods Heres some old pics, but there not good. I will ta... Mar 11, 2005 - 1:40 AM saleeka i do see that... the bottom pic shows it best... a... Mar 11, 2005 - 1:52 AM bloodrain I called up a shop (Mad Mods in florida) to see if... Mar 11, 2005 - 12:42 PM shid You think 7 years is a bad lifespan for a soft top... Mar 11, 2005 - 1:55 PM saleeka Toyota, as with 95% of all the other convertibles ... Mar 12, 2005 - 2:39 AM DamDirtyApes why would they just cut the tops off, isnt that aw... Mar 11, 2005 - 2:07 PM 2003cbgts anything we can put on our tops to better protect ... Mar 11, 2005 - 3:18 PM lil_lissa i love my convertible celi and wouldn't trade ... Mar 12, 2005 - 12:37 PM 2003cbgts ^^^ cool.. so most of you guys are happy with your... Mar 12, 2005 - 4:50 PM Mr_E Sorry, the convertables in the US are standard tin... Mar 12, 2005 - 7:29 PM shid Mr E, I'm pretty sure toyota did NOT make vert... Mar 12, 2005 - 10:41 PM Mr_E QUOTE(shid @ Mar 12, 2005 - 10:41 PM)Mr E, I... Mar 17, 2005 - 6:37 AM saleeka the only toyota convertibles that have been made a... Mar 12, 2005 - 11:10 PM jgreening so what happened to all those pics showing the dif... Mar 17, 2005 - 2:35 AM madmods QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 17, 2005 - 7:35 AM)so w... Mar 17, 2005 - 5:59 PM jgreening QUOTE(madmods @ Mar 17, 2005 - 5:59 PM)QUOTE(... Mar 17, 2005 - 6:00 PM FallenHero somebody needs to take a second gen MR2 to be conv... Mar 18, 2005 - 1:00 AM Mr_E QUOTE(FallenHero @ Mar 18, 2005 - 1:00 AM)som... Mar 18, 2005 - 3:13 AM red_94gts QUOTE(FallenHero @ Mar 18, 2005 - 6:00 AM)som... Mar 18, 2005 - 8:23 PM madmods Ok these pictures will put an end to this. yes the... Mar 19, 2005 - 3:30 AM creis thoes welds are crap, talk about "shady... Mar 19, 2005 - 12:01 PM carlosfandango thats a great thread.
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