RWD Celica, Swapping Supra drivetrain into Celica Options

[darksecret]

I know some might flame me for this but I was doing some research and the Supra is almost the same size as the Celica, wheelbase is only around 23mm apart and the width hopfully rotor to rotor (still need to get exact measurement) is only 98mm apart. the width wont be much of a problem due to the flare on the rear fenders and length can be overcome by a custom bellhousing that will be required. I got the idea from the Top Secret Supra. I know the Getrag will be a tight fit but it might be possible to do this without cutting the firewall. I'm know most of the parts I need and I know how RWD vehicles are set up so that is covered, I also have a live in welder (uncle) so fab work isn't an issue. Some might think this is highly impractical and they're right but it's a great concept that I will pursue. I'm going to hit up Supra forums and try to get more measurements for the drivetrain, etc. If anyone that can help with research it will be appreciated. Anything will help but I could use shifter placement, 3S-GTE width pully to output shaft and Getrag input shaft length. As I pursue this project I will post what I can and if it bombs at least there will be information for any other brave soul that wants to take this on.

[shid]

Uhh, you keep saying your inspiration is from the top secret supra, which stuffed the 3sgte in the engine bay.. but the 3sgte easily fits into the supra's engine bay cus it's SMALLER than the 2jz engine. You keep saying how they fit, well. Cool. Too bad it doesn't matter at all since you're trying to do this in a much smaller celica engine bay. You can fit a ton of crap in a supra bay that you can't fit in a celica.

So, step one, stop drawing inspiration from a supra setup.

This post has been edited by shid: Mar 15, 2005 - 12:33 PM

[darksecret]

Uhh, you keep saying your inspiration is from the top secret supra, which stuffed the 3sgte in the engine bay.. but the 3sgte easily fits into the supra's engine bay cus it's SMALLER than the 2jz engine. You keep saying how they fit, well. Cool. Too bad it doesn't matter at all since you're trying to do this in a much smaller celica engine bay. You can fit a ton of crap in a supra bay that you can't fit in a celica.

So, step one, stop drawing inspiration from a supra setup.
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Have you seen the TS Supra, the 3S sits far enough back in the engine bay to consider it a Mid-Engine. Any engine that sits between the Front and Rear suspension assembly is a Mid-Engine.
I don't have a 3S to measure but I can try to find a Supra. There are 3 in the East Charlotte area and I don't know the owners or see them often. Also I base the Celica off the Supra due to the measurements of the two cars are within inches of each other. the biggest difference is that the Celica is an AWD style chassis so the weight of the car car is more balanced on all four wheels than the rears and the driver area is set further forward reducing the engine bay by around 1' 6" compared to the Supra, but look at the TS and you'll see that there is a radiator thats facing the ground.

This post has been edited by darksecret: Mar 15, 2005 - 12:52 PM