the cops suck thread, why Options

[Terzin1]

why was that thread locked? I mean yes that kid was retarded but you know, was it worth banning? People had some good stories... (sob) I thought I was in a community... (sob)

[Andason]

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First off nothing you've said about law has anything to do with North Carolina law my time in a courtroom has been in a NC courtroom with NC judges and NC lawyers, I don't know anything about the great state of Wisconsin and the laws there, you're telling me you spent all those hours in court just proved to me you know nothing about North Carolina law since Wisconsin schools don't have a need to study NC law, and besides you study Criminal Justice, we get credits for that in high school, what are in community college.
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Are you trying to say my program is worthless? What a pathetic attempt at a rebuttal. Law is generally the same regardless of state. They all generally require the same elements and the wording of the laws are different. Policing procedure is generally the same too because people don't expect to be treated a lot different just because they are in a different state. I was joking about the courtroom making fun of you because this is the internet and I can say whatever I want to in order to make my argument look better.

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I can tell you're a bigot for the simple fact that you disregard the fact that I was in the Marines 2nd CEB (for you simple minded folk, that's Combat Engineer Battalion),
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Wow, that makes you special. An engineer? You must have had barrages of bullets fired at you in the garage. Though an essential part of the military, you just keep the equipment running for the real heros. I have dozens upon dozens of friends stationed in different parts of Iraq (Samarra to name the worst) and I respect them much more because of what they do.
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you act like Wisconsin is the standard. I could do the same thing by saying how would you know anything about law when your cases consist of "my brother slept with my 14 year old daughter and now she is giving birth to my nephew", I know that was cold but like I said I know nothing of Wisconsin same as you don't know anything of North Carolina
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You are deeper south than I am buddy. If you want to look at politics look who went red and look who went blue. You act like NC is above the law, apparently NC is sovereign in creating their own extravagent laws. LAW IS ALMOST ALWAYS THE SAME WHERE YOU GO. Can you commit crimes in NC that you would get away with in WI or vice-versa? Yeah. Exactly.
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but because of the noise ordinance they are stuck with limited room now this city has to shut down these tracks so that the development that just poped up down
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Oh my God... you have NOISE ORDINANCES in NC????? WOW!

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Let's go with a perfect world, in your case Andason, Wisconsin, alright what would happen if there were no street races and everyone followed the rules
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That would be one step closer to utopia and keep idiots like you from abusing the power of their car and killing people. Tell me... what practical use does a 400 horsepower car have?
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the automotive and parts industries will suffer dramatically over this. It sounds far fetched because it's a snow ball effect, but it's highly possible if things were perfect and nobody street raced.
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Wow, you can't possibly be serious. Have you ever not had a car for a few days? Imagine riding your bike to work every day. Automobiles will still be needed and thriving. I don't know about you but your precious massive displacement automobiles are becoming less and less popular and are dying in the market because of gas prices.

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keep telling me I sound ignorant about law, but I do know a little, you know nothing about street racing other than what the media states and of course they make it sound bad, news sales.
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Yeah, because we don't have street racing in Wisconsin. Please list me how street racing benefits society and our community. Your suffered automotive loss argument has already failed.
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I could go on about the Iraq thing because some of the Marines that worked for me are over there and I can relate when they say they feel like Mercs, they feel they aren't fighting for the US anymore, it's a money thing now and they hate the fact that while they sit there guarding some oil field so that Bush can make money off of it, they have to make their families suffer, read the friggin papers, people aren't re-enlisting, and if the draft starts back, while my a** is sitting there with my 240G waiting for those people we "liberated" to attack again, you tell me how it feels to be sitting in the middle of the desert with GRUNT (Ground Unit Untrained) training wishing you could go home and finish that CJ degree instead of sitting there maybe getting killed so Bush doesn't lose a couple million off of a damaged oil field.
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Once again, you sat in a garage. MECHANIC. My friends are all INFANTRY. They make fun of you all day about how you complain how bad you have it. They do not complain why they are there because they know they are helping. You complain cuz you sit in a garage all day.

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Why do I need a vast knowledge of law I have a copy of the NC General Statutes sitting on my desktop, that's how I know that Ch.71A-3 states that Lumbee Indians became an actual tribe in 1977, but didn't get any reparations until 2001, prior to 1977 they were known as the Cherokee Indians of Robeson County or the Croatans.
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WOW. I have a copy of every states statutes sitting at my fingertips... it's called Findlaw.com.
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There are also no known laws to combat organized street racing in NC other than the typical Preemptive Racing law that we learn in driver's ed. Technically the punishment of getting your car empounded when getting busted would fall under chapter 8, but it only refers to witnesses, and paperwork, nothing about keeping a vehicle in an empound yard as physical evidence, but a photograph would work just fine. I can keep looking to see if I can find a real law against street racing but it might take a couple of days, or a bill to pass.
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It falls somewhere under "reckless endangerment, reckless driving" catagory. Look that up in your statutes.
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Since you seemed to ignore me before Andason, I don't specialize in law, I took a Criminal Justice class in high school, I am a computer tech., you ask me why your computer won't boot and I can give you 10 reasons off the top of my head, just like if you don't know you probably look it up.
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Where did you go? Boot camp? Yeah once again, you sit there in air conditioning at a computer and get fatter while cops are in -32 below weather helping people out.
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Street racing is wrong, yes, is there any real laws against it, no. I can tell you the reasons I see, I don't go off what I hear, I go off what facts I can find, and I don't look for Bob's website of facts either, I look at reputable sites such as charlotte.com or ask Rhonda Miller who is a magistrate and my friend, when I stand there while my car is being searched at 11:30pm and ask the narc agents partner why and their only response is they're bored, it burns me up.
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They say they are bored to not come out with the obvious. They aren't going to say we are looking for narcotics.
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You will not change my opinion and if I die in a street race I know I died doing what I loved, instead of taking a bullet to make a man a quick buck.
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You aren't the person I am worried about. It is the person who you hit who doesn't like street racing and has a bright life ahead of them. You end it over your bloodsport.
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I can already tell you're wanting to pull that you'll take someone with you crap, but as before there have been no fatalities due to organized street racing in Charlotte so you might have to wait a while before I tell you how it feels, but I can tell you now that if they died watching or racing, they knew the consequences and I wont have pity for them, you don't do it so don't bother responding about the street racing thing until you actually go out and get a few runs under your belt.
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We were all 16 at one point. So what if there have been no deaths in Charlotte because of street racing? There have been deaths in other places and it is inevitable.
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You can check the NHTSA to find racing laws but remember most organized street races are held outside their jurasdiction and the records they have are based on the "high school kid racing home" B/S that is not organized street racing.
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No street racing is "organized." It is still illegal. Just because you can't find a direct law saying street racing is illegal you have to look at the elements. Speeding, Excessive Excelleration, Reckless driving, Reckless Endangerment, Possible vehicle code violations, etc. Think of how many laws you break on your next "run."

By the way.... who races an unmodified 6gc?


PS i dont know why the quotes didnt work... but you get the idea.

This post has been edited by Andason: May 5, 2005 - 6:27 PM