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post May 24, 2005 - 11:09 AM
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just wondering, i have noticed that camry's come with a v6 but i also noticed that the camry was released with a 5sfe in it also that lays in the engine bay the same way that the engine sits in my celica. i was wondering if it is feasible to swap a v6 camry engine into a celica i figured it would work seeing as how one of the choice trannies for a 3sgte is a v6 camry tranny and that the stock tranny for a st204 fits also so i figure in theory that a v6 camry engine swap would work with my stock trany i guess i would just need mounts ecu and harness right? or would it be a more complicated swap than expected?
 
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post May 25, 2005 - 2:00 PM
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hey,
i have been doing toyota swaps for years and 1mz swap is very easy mechanically speaking ..the wiring will be the harder challenge but not that bad if you study wiring diagrams..

you just need
1mz 97-01 manual ecu if you plan to run stock or no turbo etc..
solara v6 or converted mr2 tranny
gt or st205 tranny mounts
modified intermediate shaft to work with v6 bearing carrier
same axles are turbo swap
camry rad or look for one with top hose on other side of car


i could almost do a step by step on how 2 do it but just no time .. only 2 fab'ing issues will be rear header and pass side mount .. might have to use factory style set up for rear header or some cutting of rear subframe may be needed ..

if you had a front cut off a solara or camry 5 speed it you could almost make a stock looking v6 celica .. one plus is wiring to ecu go in same area as camry so there should be no need to cut it

it really is a easy swap for some one with more than just basic knowledge ..

if i did one i would s/c and you would have a great sleeper w/ 280hp





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post May 25, 2005 - 7:25 PM
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QUOTE(FORGMANN @ May 25, 2005 - 7:00 PM)
hey,
i have been doing toyota swaps for years and 1mz  swap is very easy mechanically speaking ..the wiring will be the harder challenge but not that bad if you study wiring diagrams..

you just need
1mz 97-01  manual ecu if you plan to run stock or no turbo etc..
solara v6  or converted mr2 tranny
gt or st205 tranny mounts
  modified intermediate shaft to work with v6 bearing carrier
same axles are turbo swap
  camry rad or look for one with top hose on other side of car


i could almost do a step by step on how 2 do it but just no time .. only 2 fab'ing issues will be rear header and pass side mount .. might have to use factory style set up for rear header or some cutting of rear subframe may be needed ..

  if you had a front cut off a solara or camry 5 speed it you could almost make a stock looking v6 celica .. one plus is wiring to ecu go in same area as camry so there should be no need to cut it 

it really is a easy swap for some one with more than just basic knowledge ..

if i did one i would s/c and you would have a great sleeper  w/ 280hp
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Yea that pretty much sums up the swap, but there is another little issue and that's the height of the motor once actually in the engine bay, i have yet to set a 7a/5s directly nexted to a 1m, but according to sbcelica i believe he once told me that the hood liked about a 1 1/2 inches (not 100%) closing. If that is the case then a gt-4 hood will clear it, with some washers. As far as everything else i don't believe it'll be as hard as a 3sgte swap, because as you said the wiring shouldn't be extremely difficult, and jegs has a radiator that will work and basically everything else is the same as a 3s swap.

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- audiophile24   v6 question   May 24, 2005 - 11:09 AM
- - Supersprynt   Kinda uncharted territory with these cars. As far ...   May 24, 2005 - 11:42 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 24, 2005 - 11:42 AM)K...   May 24, 2005 - 12:09 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 24, 2005 - 4:42 PM) I...   May 25, 2005 - 2:51 AM
- - LewFX   i wouldnt mind seeing a v6 in our car with a turbo...   May 24, 2005 - 11:44 AM
- - mikew04   Im pretty sure it has been done on a 5th gen. If i...   May 24, 2005 - 1:18 PM
- - BLADDER_MASTER   Has been done already to a 5th gen. He used the 1M...   May 24, 2005 - 1:42 PM
- - MonsterBOX   isnt the camry engine very very low end torquey wi...   May 24, 2005 - 1:48 PM
- - BLADDER_MASTER   Well, here's some dyno sheets for a 1MZ-FE (Au...   May 24, 2005 - 1:54 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ May 24, 2005 - 1:54 PM...   May 24, 2005 - 2:51 PM
|- - darksecret   QUOTE(jgreening @ May 24, 2005 - 3:51 PM)QUOT...   May 25, 2005 - 1:41 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(darksecret @ May 25, 2005 - 1:41 PM)QUO...   May 25, 2005 - 2:51 PM
- - Jeremy1210   Yeah you can put the 1mzfe engine in the car. It r...   May 24, 2005 - 2:48 PM
- - Supersprynt   And heavily modded.   May 24, 2005 - 4:36 PM
- - CheesyLobster   Its also been done on an mr2. fessible for a celic...   May 24, 2005 - 6:13 PM
- - MonsterBOX   do it if u want to be unique but dont expect a hug...   May 24, 2005 - 6:42 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(MonsterBOX @ May 24, 2005 - 6:42 PM)do ...   May 24, 2005 - 7:19 PM
- - GeEkBoY   QUOTEQUOTE(MonsterBOX @ May 24, 2005 - 6:42 PM) do...   May 24, 2005 - 8:32 PM
- - MonsterBOX   noobs? what the hell seriously the engine isnt tha...   May 24, 2005 - 8:36 PM
- - GeEkBoY   adding the supra engine would not be a swap. You ...   May 24, 2005 - 8:45 PM
- - Einhander   I've researched this swap, and have gone far e...   May 24, 2005 - 8:46 PM
- - MonsterBOX   good luck...alot of work ahead....r u gonna get po...   May 24, 2005 - 9:29 PM
- - Supersprynt   Doa photo journal. G'luck I'd like to see ...   May 24, 2005 - 10:14 PM
- - Kwanza26   You know what I notice? A lot of people talk... b...   May 25, 2005 - 2:04 AM
|- - darksecret   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ May 25, 2005 - 3:04 AM)You k...   May 25, 2005 - 1:48 PM
- - creis   YOU MEAN A 2JZ WONT FIT SIDEWAYS UNDER MY HOOD? ...   May 25, 2005 - 3:15 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(creis @ May 25, 2005 - 8:15 AM)YOU MEAN...   May 25, 2005 - 3:18 AM
|- - MonsterBOX   QUOTE(creis @ May 25, 2005 - 3:15 AM)YOU MEAN...   May 25, 2005 - 1:23 PM
- - creis   eh, there like 230hp stock right. the problem is t...   May 25, 2005 - 3:31 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(creis @ May 25, 2005 - 8:31 AM)The high...   May 25, 2005 - 4:25 AM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(creis @ May 25, 2005 - 3:31 AM)eh, ther...   May 25, 2005 - 2:50 PM
- - Galcobar   If you want to talk about a 1mzfe swap into a fift...   May 25, 2005 - 3:57 AM
- - FORGMANN   hey, i have been doing toyota swaps for years and ...   May 25, 2005 - 2:00 PM
|- - Einhander   QUOTE(FORGMANN @ May 25, 2005 - 7:00 PM)hey, ...   May 25, 2005 - 7:25 PM
- - audiophile24   well i was tinking about it i was looking into a 9...   May 25, 2005 - 2:00 PM
- - FallenHero   I go to all the trouble of making tech threads for...   May 25, 2005 - 3:08 PM
- - darksecret   My mistake I was reading the torque curve.   May 25, 2005 - 3:10 PM


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