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post Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
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hey guys, since i've been fielding alot of questions about turboing the 5s, and most of the links in the 5sfte sticky are dead, i figured i start a thread about the buildup of my kit, and try to include as many details as possible, so everyone can learn a little more about what exactly goes into a setup like this. ill keep updating the threads and adding pics and stuff as i upload more ect..
im not gonna get into the whole why not swap a 3s instead debate here, thats a dead issue as far as im concerned. (not that i think swapping is a bad idea, just not for me.)
so, ill start off by saying the single most important thing you can do if you wanna turbo your 5s is RESEARCH! take your time, learn about the diffrent systems that all work together to make a good kit work. go to www.howstuffworks.com and find out how EVERYTHING works, it'll make understanding the hows and whys of everything so much easier. i've been reserching about this for 2+yrs and i STILL learn new things everyday.
#2 is DONT BE CHEAP...can you do it cheap? yea..will it last? prolly not.
thats gotta be the SINGLE biggest mistake i see EVERYONE make. cheap out on all the little stuff, and it WILL come back to haunt you in the end

that said, i decided i wanted to turbo my 5s. lol wink.gif
so, off on the hunt i went...parts lists, install sites, the burien kit...i searched it ALLLLLL...for MONTHS!! talking to people, looking at sites, printing info..basicly what the old timers call "goin to the woodshed"
then, i started looking for parts:
3s exhaust manifold, ct-26 turbo, oil hard lines, elbow and primary cat (also known as a downpipe), if your not planning on getting a aftermarket downpipe. also the oil pan and 2bar map sensor.
your gonna want these off of a 2nd gen 3sgte from a 90-93 alltrac or mr2T, and are pretty easy finds over on www.alltrac.net and or www.mr2oc.com. if your not a member of these 2 sites, YOU SHOULD BE!!! theres a wealth of info on these to sites, and while alot of it may not be 5sfte spacific, its still VERY good info, especially the 90-99 mr2/ 3sgte forum.
next was injectors. there is ALOT of confusion here, where to find them, what they look like, what size are they really ect.
what we're looking for is the MKIII N/A supra injectors. not turbo injectors, not alltrac injectors, N/A MKIII supra. theyre a lime green color, and 315cc. just to clear up another point of confusion, they do NOT become bigger injectors in our cars. the fuel pressure between the n/a supra and the 5s is the SAME.
there is a pic in the 5sfte sticky of what they look like and the flow tests to show it.
i found mine on ebay, but you can sometimes find them on some of the boards ive mentioned, and the supraforums.
also, i really reccomend having the injectors cleaned and balanced once you get them, if you look closley at the printout for my injectors in the sticky from when i had them cleaned and balanced, youll see why i say this.
one of my injectors wasnt even spraying, it was DRIPPING before it was cleaned. i'd HATE to see what would happen if i'd installed that thing in there and cranked up the boost! wink.gif
so yea, i really cant stress enough, HAVE YOUR INJECTORS CLEANED BEFORE YOU INSTALL THEM!!! www.rceng.com did an excelent job on mine for about 100$, and ive heard thru the mr2 board that www.witchhunter.com also does a very good job, and are only 12$ per injector.

EDIT!!! 315CC injectors are TOO SMALL for use in a turbo 5sfe. 460cc rx7 injectors are a drop in replacement and are discribed later in this post!!!


you'll also need to upgrade your fuel pump, use the 255lph walboro supra pump. you can get it for under 100 usually on ebay., and pretty much bolts in.
next for me was the intercooler..now contrary to popular belief, bigger IS NOT always better when it comes to intercoolers.
you wanna choose the smallest intercooler to fit your needs, with a LITTLE room for growth. for instance, in my case, my goal is around 190-200whp for now, so i chose a intercooler thats 26x6x3 overall length, with endtanks. its good for up to 300hp. why not somthing bigger? well, the #1 reason is theres no NEED for anything bigger. lol the bigger you go, the more pressure drop you have, and thats not what we want. with all the piping invloved for a 5sfte FMIC, the last then we want is some big honking core, sucking up 2-3 or more psi of the boost we wanna get to our engines.
for the piping, again, bigger is NOT always better. 2" or 2.25 " is more than sufficent for us. you'll need to buy pre-bent lengths and cut and fit them for your particular setup. jcwhitney is cheap for aluminized steel, or burns stainless if you want stainless pipes.
then the noise maker of the bunch wink.gif , the BOV...your choice here, i chose the HKS SSQV... got it from ebay for 190+ shipping i think it was..just make sure your buying the real thing if its from ebay, theres alot of shady copys floating around. youll also need a mounting flange to have welded to your intercooler piping, make sure you get the correct size and material to match your piping. wink.gif
TOO BE CONTINUED... biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by presure2: Nov 11, 2007 - 10:53 AM


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s0 nice keep up the good work and keep the pictures comming lol

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- presure2   my 5SFTE turbo project   Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
- - presure2   a word about piping couplers and clamps here. DO N...   Apr 2, 2005 - 2:23 PM
- - shin   this is an excellent post. i'll be following y...   Apr 2, 2005 - 2:25 PM
- - 1bwilson   Thanks Manny   Apr 2, 2005 - 5:11 PM
- - presure2   ok gauges..first of course, is a boost gauge, we a...   Apr 2, 2005 - 7:00 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   Like you were saying about the Safc for tuning ful...   Apr 2, 2005 - 10:47 PM
- - 94GT   Are you going to scrap the stock oil cooler? The ...   Apr 3, 2005 - 7:03 PM
- - blu94gt   just curious what kind of turbo are you using? An...   Apr 6, 2005 - 12:28 AM
- - presure2   hey guys sorry i havent updated this week, i have ...   Apr 6, 2005 - 6:40 AM
- - rjbibeau   how much is that ct-27 runnin ya?? 800 or so. i th...   Apr 8, 2005 - 12:37 PM
- - presure2   its like 850 w/core, plus im having the wastegate ...   Apr 8, 2005 - 2:54 PM
- - presure2   ok i wanna talk a little here about oil lines. the...   Apr 11, 2005 - 11:30 AM
|- - urbandork   QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 11, 2005 - 4:30 PM)the b...   Apr 12, 2005 - 11:54 AM
- - Newbie   How about coolant lines.. Any pictures of that, an...   Apr 13, 2005 - 12:23 AM
- - presure2   ok guys since its been awhile since i updated this...   May 10, 2005 - 9:43 AM
- - Drocay   very nice, bro. good job.   May 10, 2005 - 9:56 AM
- - presure2   i also have been working on getting my oil feed li...   May 10, 2005 - 10:31 AM
- - presure2   the canton racing oil filter relocation adapter t...   May 10, 2005 - 10:33 AM
- - CelicaZR   This will be very helpful for me in the future ...   May 10, 2005 - 10:51 AM
- - 94GT   Update?   May 18, 2005 - 2:44 PM
- - presure2   QUOTE94GT Posted Today, 03:44 PM   Update? like...   May 18, 2005 - 3:44 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(presure2 @ May 18, 2005 - 8:44 PM) like...   May 20, 2005 - 11:42 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   woot for T bolts   May 18, 2005 - 7:58 PM
- - presure2   heres a few more pics for you guys.. the magnaflow...   May 25, 2005 - 6:08 AM
- - presure2   got my battery tray/holder in earlier today, and m...   May 26, 2005 - 3:06 PM
- - presure2   heres a couple pics of my exhaust manifold after t...   May 27, 2005 - 6:23 AM
- - presure2   hey guys, big news... as some of you know, i got m...   Jun 4, 2005 - 12:23 AM
- - jgreening   I am excited for you Manny....its fun watching you...   Jun 4, 2005 - 1:47 AM
- - Batman722   RE: my 5SFTE turbo project   Jun 4, 2005 - 11:12 PM
- - presure2   hey dustin, at least you didnt get the big hole in...   Jun 5, 2005 - 7:48 AM
- - Batman722   I added some pics http://www.6gc.net/forums/index....   Jun 6, 2005 - 12:34 AM
- - presure2   ok guys after a LONG weekend of hard work, its fin...   Jun 6, 2005 - 7:44 AM
- - rjbibeau   are you taking your oil from the oil cooler part o...   Jun 6, 2005 - 11:38 AM
- - presure2   QUOTEare you taking your oil from the oil cooler p...   Jun 6, 2005 - 2:53 PM
- - defgeph   Congrats ! Great work man. Looks awesome. DE...   Jun 6, 2005 - 4:34 PM
- - trdevelopment   s0 nice keep up the good work and keep the picture...   Jun 6, 2005 - 7:01 PM
- - presure2   ok so, its been like 2 months or somthing since i ...   Aug 17, 2005 - 10:10 AM
- - presure2   RE: my 5SFTE turbo project   Aug 17, 2005 - 10:22 AM
- - presure2   RE: my 5SFTE turbo project   Aug 17, 2005 - 10:32 AM
- - presure2   RE: my 5SFTE turbo project   Aug 17, 2005 - 10:38 AM
- - presure2   that sums up the turbo install. that following mon...   Aug 17, 2005 - 10:38 AM
- - presure2   a few days later i went over to my local dynojet: ...   Aug 17, 2005 - 10:42 AM
- - presure2   and thats about where we stand today, 2.5months la...   Aug 17, 2005 - 10:46 AM
- - shin   toooooooooooooo HOOOOOOOOOOOT~!! can't...   Aug 17, 2005 - 10:57 AM
- - OOBE   WOOT! 12 PSI...if my puny little 7A-FE did it,...   Aug 17, 2005 - 11:32 AM
- - presure2   since i been fielding a bunch of questions about t...   Aug 31, 2005 - 9:15 AM
- - presure2   went back to the dyno with the 460cc injectors for...   Apr 1, 2006 - 9:17 AM
- - presure2   WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT ok guys, today official...   Jun 6, 2006 - 7:47 AM
- - shin   yea. this set up is an awesome set up. i'm loo...   Jun 6, 2006 - 9:25 AM
- - lagos   congrads manny !   Jun 6, 2006 - 11:08 AM
- - brianforster   every time i see you post i get excited, haha   Jun 6, 2006 - 11:11 AM
- - dustin15brown   whats the total cost on this project so far   Jun 6, 2006 - 11:44 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 6, 2006 - 12...   Jun 6, 2006 - 12:28 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Happy birthday, 5SFTE! w00t. Certainly has be...   Jun 6, 2006 - 12:04 PM
- - hitcachi   Manny, just so you know, your pics on your piping ...   Jun 6, 2006 - 3:18 PM
- - j0e_p3t   love your car. never would've thought a 5sfe c...   Jun 6, 2006 - 7:25 PM
- - massbrandon   Ive said it before and Ill say it again. Youre my ...   Jun 6, 2006 - 8:40 PM
- - Cutrara   Nice results. I love reading about your project, j...   Jun 6, 2006 - 8:44 PM
- - sugarfree   Thats good to see that you have a turbo 5s last th...   Jun 6, 2006 - 10:55 PM
- - MaX   love your work manny, i know who to talk to when ...   Jun 7, 2006 - 12:22 AM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTEblowing theyre motors to smitherinees   Jun 7, 2006 - 9:07 AM
- - defgeph   To one year and still going strong. Congrats ...   Jun 7, 2006 - 9:51 AM
- - Batman722   OK I have had first hand experience with this car ...   Jun 7, 2006 - 1:50 PM
- - elvasoshexai   one day my celi is gonna grow up to be just like u...   Jun 7, 2006 - 1:57 PM
- - presure2   thanks for all the props, guys. i appreciate it, a...   Jun 7, 2006 - 6:46 PM
- - WALKER   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 7, 2006 - 5:46 ...   Jun 7, 2006 - 7:11 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(WALKER @ Jun 7, 2006 - 8:11 PM...   Jun 7, 2006 - 7:56 PM
- - frosty   I love this post and it really helps out in the re...   Jun 16, 2006 - 12:37 PM
- - presure2   frosty, gas milage is all dependant on the right f...   Jun 16, 2006 - 12:51 PM
- - frosty   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 16, 2006 - 5:51...   Jun 16, 2006 - 1:11 PM
- - shin   manny's research and info have opened a better...   Jun 16, 2006 - 3:27 PM
- - jgreening   long live the 5sfte! Good job Manny - your is...   Jun 16, 2006 - 3:35 PM
- - puretone   hi, i got a 5th gen 5SFE that i turbo'd, i kno...   Jun 18, 2006 - 8:35 AM
- - presure2   puretone, i actually am using the 2bar map, just ...   Jun 18, 2006 - 8:45 AM
|- - puretone   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 18, 2006 - 8:45...   Jun 18, 2006 - 9:06 AM
- - presure2   naa, no need for any fuel mods at this point. i h...   Jun 18, 2006 - 9:15 AM
|- - puretone   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 18, 2006 - 9:15...   Jun 18, 2006 - 9:27 AM
- - presure2   Dynojet Research Inc. Run Name: C:\DynoRuns...   Jun 18, 2006 - 10:42 AM
- - IdiotStick   So pressure, in your honest opinion here. If you ...   Sep 23, 2006 - 6:01 PM
- - presure2   i would do it again in a second, only insead of ge...   Sep 23, 2006 - 6:13 PM
- - WALKER   QUOTE(presure2 @ Sep 23, 2006 - 5:13...   Sep 23, 2006 - 6:16 PM
- - presure2   naa, i just feel like i could have used the extra ...   Sep 23, 2006 - 6:51 PM
- - lagos   manny, you are the MANny! its great how much ...   Sep 23, 2006 - 10:50 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 23, 2006 - 11:50 P...   Sep 24, 2006 - 7:27 AM
- - Bitter   retard at the distributor would only help when he ...   Sep 24, 2006 - 12:13 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Bitter @ Sep 24, 2006 - 1:13 A...   Sep 24, 2006 - 12:42 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   yeah tuning is a crucial link in good performing m...   Sep 24, 2006 - 11:32 AM
- - Agent21   Manny if you want to try it I can get a hold of so...   Sep 24, 2006 - 11:39 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Agent21 @ Sep 24, 2006 - 12:39...   Sep 24, 2006 - 1:24 PM
- - lagos   dont forget to take our your wideband, next time y...   Sep 24, 2006 - 1:53 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 24, 2006 - 2:53 PM...   Sep 24, 2006 - 5:32 PM
- - 6strngs   manny, I love your car dude. I've got a coupl...   Oct 13, 2006 - 3:07 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(6strngs @ Oct 13, 2006 - 4:07 ...   Oct 13, 2006 - 5:47 AM
|- - elvasoshexai   QUOTE(presure2 @ Oct 13, 2006 - 6:47...   Oct 13, 2006 - 12:39 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(elvasoshexai @ Oct 13, 2006 - 1...   Oct 13, 2006 - 4:10 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEI'm a poor college student. if my engine ...   Oct 13, 2006 - 11:17 AM
- - NuclearHappineS   QUOTEits probably best to keep it stock then. you...   Oct 14, 2006 - 12:28 PM
- - 6strngs   so, what's better about the greddy emanage ult...   Oct 14, 2006 - 5:18 PM
- - presure2   the ultimate adds timing control, as well as sever...   Oct 14, 2006 - 6:08 PM
- - 6strngs   QUOTE(presure2 @ Oct 14, 2006 - 4:08...   Oct 15, 2006 - 1:34 AM
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