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post Jun 11, 2005 - 11:07 AM
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I have been browsing this forum for quite some time and have noticed that NO COMPANY make a header for the 2.2l 5sfe. SSAutochrome was about to but then people backed out (and yes, I have seen claims of their poor quality with some products. Fortunately this header wasn't bad. There was one or two instances where they did crack or break though in the MR2 community, and that's about it).

I had three MK II MR2s with the 5sfe. I also had the SSAC header on one of them. Let me tell you the performance improvement was noticable right away. It was almost like night and day. More pull and it ran quicker through the gears.

When I had to put the stock exhaust manifold back on for inspection, the car ran much slower, easily noticable.

Now, the NA MR2 weighs in at @ 2650 lbs. The 94-99 Celica GT hardtop weighs in at @ 2450 lbs, correct? A good header would probably make it quicker in a line than the MR2, which felt good in a line.

Is there atleast a header in the works from a reputable aftermarket company?


I'm probably going to be buying a 6th gen celica in the near future as my new daily driver. Is there any place where I can see the yearly updates they did to the celica to fix problems from the previous year? Like for example, in 93, the MR2 fixed some electrical problems or quirks, and upgraded the suspension and other things. Is there a list like this for the 6th gen celicas?
 
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post Jun 16, 2005 - 10:20 PM
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No prob man I understand, as for Kwanza I understand horsepower is a good thing, believe me, I wasn't saying it's useless or that torque is better, but I did want to say that if you want a highway monster, something for the street/strip increasing the torque would be more important due to the lower rpm gains, now horsepower on the other is great for drifting, drag, or high speed track simply because you can utilize it more often than on the road. The horsepower thing is also why I don't care for Hondas, you've debated with me before and you can tell i'm not stupid when it comes to cars, i'm not a typical hater who says Hondas suck because they get riced, my main reason is because I feel they are overrated, some are quick but like the S2000 it's a track car that is portrayed as a daily driver, it's got a high amount of road noise and a very high peak horsepower rating, the Si in stock form or with mild mods isn't very fast but a lot of Honda guys will defend it until they die, I have legit reasons for not caring for them (also the fact that i'm more into rare cars which the Celica is one of the least common imports). I do like the RSX-S, my Celi (for a 5SFE) is quick but I still can't beat a stock one, i'll give a good run until about 40-50 mph but then they come into their powerband and I lose.

I kind of like debating this with you, i've been a member since March and a viewer since November and I think between us we can write a book on most the details of a car. Well i'm letting the horsepower vs. torque thing go like I said before it has been an ongoing debate for decades and it will go on until it's not a unit of measurement anymore. I didn't mean to offend anyone about the Honda kids thing, I should have added that most of the fast Hondas around here are owned by 17-19 year olds whose parents helped them build them up, which I feel if you're going to talk trash and say you got a 328whp RSX you should have put more than a waiting period at the garage into it, you'll appreciate it much more (it isn't just Honda owners like that either, we got 4 Evos like that also).

BTW I lived on HSW for about a year and even read the book, that's how I know a lot more than the average person, it's a really helpful site for a noob. I would recommend taking notes though, there is a lot of info.

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- CyberCT   Why Doesn't Any Company Make A Header For The 5SFE   Jun 11, 2005 - 11:07 AM
- - Digndoug   its not really worth it.. its a very low end desig...   Jun 11, 2005 - 11:12 AM
- - CyberCT   But the 1.8l ST engine would be better, considerin...   Jun 11, 2005 - 11:32 AM
- - Galcobar   If you'd been browsing you'd know the 5SFE...   Jun 12, 2005 - 12:27 AM
- - MonsterBOX   r u sure the mr2 is heavier than a gt celica? that...   Jun 12, 2005 - 12:43 AM
- - Galcobar   Sounds odd to me as well...two-seater versus four?   Jun 12, 2005 - 4:45 AM
- - CyberCT   94-99 Celica GT 2 Door Hatchback: 2415lbs http://a...   Jun 12, 2005 - 6:39 PM
- - Kwanza26   The Celica GTs weigh around 2600 pounds depending ...   Jun 12, 2005 - 7:29 PM
- - Galcobar   The Genie and Hotshot headers are not exact bolt-o...   Jun 13, 2005 - 2:15 AM
- - CyberCT   Wait, so a 7AFE puts out more power and tq with a ...   Jun 13, 2005 - 8:22 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(CyberCT @ Jun 13, 2005 - 1:22 PM)Wait, ...   Jun 13, 2005 - 8:57 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(CyberCT @ Jun 13, 2005 - 9:22 AM)Wait, ...   Jun 13, 2005 - 8:40 AM
- - CyberCT   I don't want to do any internal mods, only bol...   Jun 13, 2005 - 10:52 AM
- - darksecret   One of the main causes for the high torque rating ...   Jun 13, 2005 - 10:56 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(darksecret @ Jun 13, 2005 - 3:56 PM)One...   Jun 13, 2005 - 6:10 PM
- - darksecret   Yeah I know how the ratios work, but last time I c...   Jun 13, 2005 - 6:36 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(darksecret @ Jun 13, 2005 - 11:36 PM)Ye...   Jun 13, 2005 - 7:25 PM
- - CyberCT   Ah yes but this is missing the whole point. BOLT ...   Jun 13, 2005 - 6:57 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(CyberCT @ Jun 13, 2005 - 11:57 PM)Ah ye...   Jun 13, 2005 - 7:32 PM
- - darksecret   A little boost, like seat of the pants boost? You...   Jun 13, 2005 - 7:23 PM
- - darksecret   You talk like the 5SFE is a diesel, it's strok...   Jun 13, 2005 - 7:58 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(darksecret @ Jun 14, 2005 - 12:58 AM)Yo...   Jun 13, 2005 - 9:13 PM
- - darksecret   Not all cars are Hondas, the Celica tops out way b...   Jun 14, 2005 - 9:48 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(darksecret @ Jun 14, 2005 - 2:48 PM)Not...   Jun 16, 2005 - 1:14 PM
- - LewFX   anyone know if this is any good for the gt? http:...   Jun 14, 2005 - 1:11 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(LewFX @ Jun 14, 2005 - 2:11 PM)anyone k...   Jun 14, 2005 - 1:21 PM
- - LewFX   I have a GT and its fun, and i do outrun allot of ...   Jun 14, 2005 - 1:42 PM
- - darksecret   The main reason nobody cares to modify the 5SFE is...   Jun 14, 2005 - 3:22 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I think the point was totally missed in this threa...   Jun 16, 2005 - 1:17 AM
- - darksecret   ^^^^^^^^^^ We already told him that the arguement ...   Jun 16, 2005 - 8:51 AM
|- - Silver94CelicaOwner   QUOTE(darksecret @ Jun 16, 2005 - 6:51 AM)^^^...   Jun 16, 2005 - 9:31 PM
- - darksecret   No prob man I understand, as for Kwanza I understa...   Jun 16, 2005 - 10:20 PM


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