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post Jan 17, 2005 - 6:05 PM
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I dont know if you guys know what all goes into putting a Wal-Mart up but my goodness theres always a fight in every city to keep it out of their city.


Do you guys have any problems with Wal-Mart?


go to Walmart facts\

they have such a bad rap but i personally see nothing wrong with the company. They are an excellent company for wifes or family members of those who live on military bases. Gives people a chance to work.


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post Sep 7, 2005 - 5:38 PM
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It tells why globalization is good and how protectionism is bad.


That's a really black and white view of a very complicated issue. Especially for a book that's only 100 pages..

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post Sep 7, 2005 - 9:20 PM
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QUOTE(soltrain @ Sep 7, 2005 - 3:38 PM)
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It tells why globalization is good and how protectionism is bad.


That's a really black and white view of a very complicated issue. Especially for a book that's only 100 pages..
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Then read this one instead: The Commanding Heights. It's about 300-400 pages and a much more difficult and boring read but takes the same stance. It's even better because it gives historical proof. Our country's economy has been much stronger as a whole since the existence of Wal-Mart and globalization. The fact of the matter is that there have always been low paying jobs and cheap labor in this country. What industry and company it is in is just irrelevant. I seriously don't think a small local business would pay any better than a Wal-Mart. If Wal-Mart has so many problems like everyone says, then there's room for competition. Personally, I don't even shop at Wal-Mart, and I'm poor. I don't like a single thing in their store, and they don't have a thing I can't find somewhere else. I don't like their big parking lot and long lines. Same thing with Meijer's and all the other "big box" stores.
post Sep 8, 2005 - 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(BlackSTX @ Sep 8, 2005 - 2:20 AM)
QUOTE(soltrain @ Sep 7, 2005 - 3:38 PM)
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It tells why globalization is good and how protectionism is bad.


That's a really black and white view of a very complicated issue. Especially for a book that's only 100 pages..
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Then read this one instead: The Commanding Heights. It's about 300-400 pages and a much more difficult and boring read but takes the same stance. It's even better because it gives historical proof. Our country's economy has been much stronger as a whole since the existence of Wal-Mart and globalization. The fact of the matter is that there have always been low paying jobs and cheap labor in this country. What industry and company it is in is just irrelevant. I seriously don't think a small local business would pay any better than a Wal-Mart. If Wal-Mart has so many problems like everyone says, then there's room for competition. Personally, I don't even shop at Wal-Mart, and I'm poor. I don't like a single thing in their store, and they don't have a thing I can't find somewhere else. I don't like their big parking lot and long lines. Same thing with Meijer's and all the other "big box" stores.
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C'mon now... you're from Florence Kentucky... 25,000 90% white "MIDDLE CLASS" population. What could you possibly know about living in poorest parts of the country? What experience could you possibly have about downsized buisness ousourcing jobs so Americans have the "opportunity" to attain new "better" jobs? Realize that most people who's jobs get outsourced do NOT suddenly gain new skills and reap the benefits of being "released" by getting better paying jobs (Released is a funny word too. I doubt people were actually locked up at a decent job... so they aren't actually being "released" or "let go"... kicked the fawk out perhaps). That's just a joke. It's so funny you actually believe that and you believe this because you read it in a book. Most people who get their jobs outsourced end up flipping burgers for minimum wage... assuming that can even support their families, pay the bills, and maintain their standard of living (hell no!). Go to LA... a city where not everyone is white and makes 45-50K a year, and take a look around... and see how great of jobs people have from big buisness globalization. See how well off these people are because their well paying jobs with good benefits have moved to a country where people are willing to work for 10 cents a day.


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post Sep 8, 2005 - 6:08 AM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 8, 2005 - 12:29 AM)
It's so funny you actually believe that and you believe this because you read it in a book. 
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Perhaps you should read the book before you critisize it. Surely, you wouldn't fault someone from learning something from the BGB just because it was a "book" and not based on experience. The problem with basing everything off your personal experience is that people do not have sufficient experience to form competent opinions on all subjects. Thus, we read, listen and learn.

I don't think anyone that has seriously studied this issue fails to acknowledge that the short term effects for the workers whose jobs are displaced are significant and, in some cases, devastating. But, that does not answer the question about whether fostering a free market and a global economy is better for society as a whole. The negative effects must be balanced against the positive effects as well. Even left wing politicians like Bill Clinton and Al Gore have forcefully argued for more expansive and open trade agreements with less developed nations.

The difference between a society with an open market and one that engages in protectionist tactics or other marxist economy theory is not the existence of poor people. Indeed, both societies have poor people. The difference is the number of wealthy people and the relative health of the middle class.

For more insight on the laws of economics, try a google search on Austrian Economics. It is the purest economic discipline. In the end, I find the laws of economics to be like the laws of gravity: you can choose to believe them or not but your opinion does not make them any less true.


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- BlackCelicaGT94   Who here doesnt like Wal-Mart?   Jan 17, 2005 - 6:05 PM
- - SinisterWhisper   I work at meijer as a cashier and we are basicaly ...   Jan 17, 2005 - 6:25 PM
- - Uppitycracker   I think the main problem people have with walmarts...   Jan 17, 2005 - 6:28 PM
- - Coomer   I like Wal-Mart because I can go there at 3AM to g...   Jan 17, 2005 - 6:30 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(Coomer @ Jan 17, 2005 - 4:30 PM)I like ...   Jan 17, 2005 - 6:39 PM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(Uppitycracker @ Jan 17, 2005 - 3:39 PM)...   Jan 17, 2005 - 7:11 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(Coomer @ Jan 17, 2005 - 5:11 PM)QUOTE(U...   Jan 17, 2005 - 7:13 PM
- - BLINKYxMUNKEY   i dont really like walmart. i was just walking aro...   Jan 17, 2005 - 6:31 PM
- - Batman722   QUOTE dont really like walmart. i was just walking...   Jan 17, 2005 - 6:41 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   heres a few reasons people dont like them they d...   Jan 17, 2005 - 6:49 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Jan 17, 2005 - 4:49 P...   Jan 17, 2005 - 7:11 PM
- - ghostdog   reasons I hate walmart http://www.flagstaffactivi...   Jan 17, 2005 - 6:57 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   DOES FLAGSTAFF NEED SUPER WAL-MART? Employment Im...   Jan 17, 2005 - 7:07 PM
|- - ghostdog   did you get that from the walmart website? sorry t...   Jan 17, 2005 - 8:05 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   oh no i like them :-D trust me i do! and i don...   Jan 17, 2005 - 7:14 PM
|- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Jan 17, 2005 - 5:14 P...   Jan 17, 2005 - 7:15 PM
- - orvillescelica   I LOVE Walmart!!! I use to go to Super...   Jan 17, 2005 - 7:36 PM
- - madmods   I understand both sides of the arguments and saw a...   Jan 17, 2005 - 7:39 PM
- - forkee   umm....the walmarts around here are only open 8-11...   Jan 17, 2005 - 8:03 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   I like wal-mart and i have the best reason in the ...   Jan 17, 2005 - 8:14 PM
- - dstrbcelica   i don't like wal-mart. i work for a competitor...   Jan 17, 2005 - 8:19 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE(Uppitycracker @ Jan 17, 2005 - 4:13 PM)...   Jan 17, 2005 - 9:18 PM
- - Kwanza26   I didn't read anything you folks are arguing a...   Jan 17, 2005 - 9:24 PM
- - vangSTa_celica   Not an overall big fan, but good on a college stud...   Jan 17, 2005 - 11:37 PM
- - saleeka   for me I try to avoid shopping at wal-mart if I ca...   Jan 18, 2005 - 2:56 PM
|- - BlackSTX   QUOTE(saleeka @ Jan 18, 2005 - 12:56 PM)for m...   Sep 7, 2005 - 10:26 AM
|- - darksecret   QUOTE(BlackSTX @ Sep 7, 2005 - 11:26 AM)If yo...   Sep 7, 2005 - 4:28 PM
- - Jaws4God   Kmart rules!   Jan 18, 2005 - 4:02 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   Wal-Mart Daily News A daily guide to what's h...   Sep 6, 2005 - 10:29 PM
- - 95CelicaST   I do not like Walmart. Their clothing is crap. ...   Sep 6, 2005 - 11:09 PM
- - ILuvMyCelica95   that is far too much to read   Sep 6, 2005 - 11:17 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   wal-mart gives me a job like ive said! and the...   Sep 6, 2005 - 11:18 PM
- - Benevolence   I work at costco ( a unionized one) and get a unio...   Sep 6, 2005 - 11:57 PM
- - saleeka   i will agree that what they are doing for hurrican...   Sep 7, 2005 - 12:30 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(saleeka @ Sep 7, 2005 - 12:30 AM)i will...   Sep 7, 2005 - 4:58 AM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   ha i hope u guys dont think i directly work for th...   Sep 7, 2005 - 8:30 AM
- - blu94gt   I have mixed feelings about Wal-Mart. Yeah, they ...   Sep 7, 2005 - 11:44 AM
|- - saleeka   Well, I would like to think I have a decent unders...   Sep 7, 2005 - 12:26 PM
|- - BlackSTX   QUOTE(saleeka @ Sep 7, 2005 - 10:26 AM) With ...   Sep 7, 2005 - 3:15 PM
|- - saleeka   QUOTE(BlackSTX @ Sep 7, 2005 - 2:15 PM)Wrong....   Sep 7, 2005 - 5:17 PM
- - Yota   The problem with Wal-Mart is that it doesn't k...   Sep 7, 2005 - 3:25 PM
- - yarik83   I hate walmart for the people that work there-neve...   Sep 7, 2005 - 5:06 PM
- - macavely   2 weeks ago i stepped foot into a wal mart for the...   Sep 7, 2005 - 5:28 PM
- - soltrain   QUOTEIt tells why globalization is good and how pr...   Sep 7, 2005 - 5:38 PM
|- - BlackSTX   QUOTE(soltrain @ Sep 7, 2005 - 3:38 PM)QUOTEI...   Sep 7, 2005 - 9:20 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(BlackSTX @ Sep 8, 2005 - 2:20 AM)QUOTE(...   Sep 8, 2005 - 12:29 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 8, 2005 - 12:29 AM)It...   Sep 8, 2005 - 6:08 AM
||- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(jgreening @ Sep 8, 2005 - 11:08 AM)Perh...   Sep 9, 2005 - 7:19 PM
|- - BlackSTX   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 7, 2005 - 10:29 PM)QUOTE...   Sep 8, 2005 - 8:50 AM
- - jojobombiest   the attitude of employees usually reflects how muc...   Sep 7, 2005 - 8:18 PM
- - Jeremy1210   Don't forget that walmart treats women like **...   Sep 8, 2005 - 12:14 AM
- - saleeka   thank you Kwanza for putting it "not so polit...   Sep 8, 2005 - 1:51 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(saleeka @ Sep 8, 2005 - 1:51 AM)thank y...   Sep 8, 2005 - 5:41 AM
- - jgreening   Intelligent reply and I agree with 99% of it. The...   Sep 9, 2005 - 11:57 PM
- - 97lestyousay   :   Sep 10, 2005 - 12:51 AM
- - darksecret   Let's not forget the cities that deny Wal-Mart...   Sep 10, 2005 - 12:18 PM


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