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post Sep 21, 2005 - 1:52 AM
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What is the best Naturally Aspired engine for toyota?

I hear beams and silver top thrown around. But what is the BEST? Which one has the most power to weight ratio? Most power after modifications?

Is the 7th gen gts engine the best n/a engine toyota offers?
 
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post Sep 21, 2005 - 11:42 AM
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2zz is whp per ltr.and that 13.7 was with drag slicks I believe.... still impressive though.

You can add a Apexi PFC to the 2zz and consistently run low 14's with no other mods. Throw in the I, E, H, and you are making 180-200 whp NA.

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- Hanyo   best N/A engine   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:52 AM
- - FallenHero   Probably is the 2zz for power and reliability. Ho...   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:54 AM
- - orvillescelica   3sge beams black top, but youll never find one in ...   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:55 AM
- - ST-204   Nope, it has one swapped 3S-GE "BEAMS"-b...   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:59 AM
- - Coomer   I've heard bad things about the 2ZZ-GE's d...   Sep 21, 2005 - 2:05 AM
- - Hanyo   i always thought the beams engine was the best, Be...   Sep 21, 2005 - 2:05 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Hanyo @ Sep 21, 2005 - 7:05 AM)i always...   Sep 21, 2005 - 2:41 AM
- - macavely   power to weight that has to dowith the chasie and ...   Sep 21, 2005 - 8:38 AM
- - Akimbo   beams or 2zz...the 2zz ran a 13.7 with I/E/H, I do...   Sep 21, 2005 - 11:38 AM
- - FallenHero   2zz is whp per ltr.and that 13.7 was with drag sli...   Sep 21, 2005 - 11:42 AM
- - boosted_K2   depends what you are talking about... car+motor fa...   Sep 21, 2005 - 11:53 AM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 21, 2005 - 9:53 AM)dep...   Sep 21, 2005 - 12:49 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(Coomer @ Sep 21, 2005 - 12:49 PM)QUOTE(...   Sep 21, 2005 - 2:45 PM
- - Boss-Celica   Beams 3s or 20v 4age   Sep 21, 2005 - 12:09 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Beams, no doubt. 4 cylinder with 210HP stock (redt...   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:18 PM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(95CelicaST @ Sep 21, 2005 - 12:18 PM)Be...   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:32 PM
- - pokemeintheeye   I know everyones talking bout the blacktop Beams, ...   Sep 21, 2005 - 3:56 PM
- - ST-204   But IMO, I do think Honda F-20C, B-18C and K-20A e...   Sep 21, 2005 - 6:35 PM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 21, 2005 - 5:35 PM)Bu...   Sep 21, 2005 - 8:19 PM
|- - ST-204   QUOTE(Shigexile @ Sep 22, 2005 - 1:19 AM)QUOT...   Sep 21, 2005 - 11:21 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 22, 2005 - 4:21 AM)Ye...   Sep 22, 2005 - 4:28 AM
|- - FallenHero   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 22, 2005 - 2:28 AM)QUOTE...   Sep 22, 2005 - 1:08 PM
- - boosted_K2   yea sorry i meant redtop, not blacktop i was looki...   Sep 21, 2005 - 11:13 PM
- - Hanyo   who fast is a 6gc with the 2zz swap? isn't th...   Sep 23, 2005 - 6:28 PM
- - jdg371   the 3.5 v6 (IS350) sounds like a crazy arse N/A mo...   Sep 23, 2005 - 9:05 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I really like the 2ZZGE alot, its a very fun motor...   Sep 23, 2005 - 9:23 PM
- - SSJChar   what are the specs on the 2zz engine? how easy/ha...   Sep 24, 2005 - 2:50 PM
- - jdg371   I thought the 2ZZ was more expensive than a 2nd ge...   Sep 24, 2005 - 3:39 PM
- - bonzaisushi   Aluminum is for pop cans give me a 3s or 4a   Sep 25, 2005 - 7:26 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(bonzaisushi @ Sep 26, 2005 - 12:26 AM)A...   Sep 25, 2005 - 10:52 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 25, 2005 - 10:52 PM)QUOT...   Sep 26, 2005 - 2:36 AM
- - Celica_Fan   Best engine 3S-GE That sounds mean as when it...   Sep 26, 2005 - 2:38 AM
- - recneps   im gonna pop in here and say 2zz-ge, im biased. ...   Sep 26, 2005 - 10:32 AM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(recneps @ Sep 26, 2005 - 10:32 AM)im go...   Sep 26, 2005 - 2:58 PM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 25, 2005 - 9:52 PM)QUOTE...   Sep 26, 2005 - 1:18 PM
- - jess_i_74   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 23, 2005 - 10...   Sep 26, 2005 - 7:11 PM
|- - ST-204   QUOTE(jess_i_74 @ Sep 27, 2005 - 12:11 AM)QUO...   Sep 28, 2005 - 1:21 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:21 PM) V...   Sep 28, 2005 - 6:25 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:25 PM)QUOTE...   Sep 28, 2005 - 7:26 PM
- - Celicaguy13   When talking about the 3sge beams vs 2zz-ge, all o...   Sep 30, 2005 - 1:09 AM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(Celicaguy13 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 12:09 AM)W...   Sep 30, 2005 - 8:38 AM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(Shigexile @ Sep 30, 2005 - 8:38 AM)QUOT...   Sep 30, 2005 - 2:47 PM
|- - macavely   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Sep 30, 2005 - 2:47 PM...   Sep 30, 2005 - 3:40 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(macavely @ Sep 30, 2005 - 3:40 PM)QUOTE...   Sep 30, 2005 - 7:26 PM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(Celicaguy13 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 12:09 AM)A...   Sep 30, 2005 - 8:42 AM
- - Celicaguy13   The elise is the one that has 190. I honestly don...   Sep 30, 2005 - 5:01 PM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Sep 30, 2005 - 1:47 PM...   Sep 30, 2005 - 7:13 PM
- - macavely   still thats not bad.... something to think about w...   Sep 30, 2005 - 8:18 PM
- - Kwanza26   200ps is like 195hp... whoopie! 5hp more than...   Sep 30, 2005 - 10:45 PM
- - Celicaguy13   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 10:45 PM)200p...   Oct 1, 2005 - 1:22 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 11:45 PM)You ...   Oct 1, 2005 - 1:45 AM
- - Celicaguy13   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Oct 1, 2005 - 1:45 A...   Oct 1, 2005 - 1:55 AM
- - Celicaguy13   By the way, sorry for being a dick.   Oct 1, 2005 - 2:01 AM
- - Hanyo   BUMP FROM THE DEAD!!! how much poten...   Oct 13, 2005 - 3:03 AM
- - macavely   with any engine the potential is found by failuer ...   Oct 13, 2005 - 3:11 AM
- - Hanyo   i know the ge head and the 11 compression ratio wi...   Oct 13, 2005 - 3:16 AM
- - FallenHero   beams... I wonder how the pistons/rods are... tha...   Oct 13, 2005 - 4:15 AM
- - Hanyo   higher compression ratio? the beams already has 1...   Oct 13, 2005 - 4:50 AM
- - FallenHero   I have heard of 13:1 on 93 octane. And I do say ...   Oct 13, 2005 - 1:59 PM
- - bonzaisushi   Aluminum is for pop cans.... 4age, Ra24 Im no...   Oct 13, 2005 - 3:21 PM
- - Outsider   I'd have to say for N/A it's BEAMS. but ...   Oct 13, 2005 - 6:53 PM
- - snowbunny   2JZ-GTE '." +1   Oct 15, 2005 - 11:09 PM
- - vangSTa_celica   So the 2JZ-GTE is a N/A engine? HmmMMmm...   Oct 16, 2005 - 1:02 AM
- - Hanyo   yes its a n/a engine. Its n/a before 3k rpm before...   Oct 16, 2005 - 2:46 AM
- - creis   ^ actualy a true NA (2JZ-GE) motor would be better...   Oct 16, 2005 - 6:26 AM
- - maikl   my engine? ti thing the main thing for you is ...   Oct 16, 2005 - 11:55 AM
- - bonzaisushi   QUOTE(creis @ Oct 16, 2005 - 4:26 AM)^ actual...   Oct 17, 2005 - 1:41 PM

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