 best N/A engine, for toyota |
 Sep 21, 2005 - 1:52 AM
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What is the best Naturally Aspired engine for toyota?
I hear beams and silver top thrown around. But what is the BEST? Which one has the most power to weight ratio? Most power after modifications? Is the 7th gen gts engine the best n/a engine toyota offers? |
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Sep 21, 2005 - 11:53 AM
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depends what you are talking about... car+motor factory combonation is probably the blacktop 3sge in the celica or the 2zz in the 7th gen celica... but if you are talking swapped... a 1mzfe in a 1st or 2nd gen MR2 is probably the best NA combo for all around... for streightline the V8 swapped 5th gen is probably tops (i think it was using a toyota truck motor wasnt it? or was it a domestic motor?)
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Sep 21, 2005 - 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 21, 2005 - 9:53 AM) depends what you are talking about... car+motor factory combonation is probably the blacktop 3sge in the celica or the 2zz in the 7th gen celica... but if you are talking swapped... a 1mzfe in a 1st or 2nd gen MR2 is probably the best NA combo for all around... for streightline the V8 swapped 5th gen is probably tops (i think it was using a toyota truck motor wasnt it? or was it a domestic motor?) [right][snapback]336944[/snapback][/right] The blacktop BEAMS 3S-GE motor was only found in the Altezza...the Celica got the redtop version.  And yeah, that V8 swapped ST185 used a Tundra V8...wasn't it twin-turbocharged as well? -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Sep 21, 2005 - 2:45 PM
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QUOTE(Coomer @ Sep 21, 2005 - 12:49 PM) QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 21, 2005 - 9:53 AM) depends what you are talking about... car+motor factory combonation is probably the blacktop 3sge in the celica or the 2zz in the 7th gen celica... but if you are talking swapped... a 1mzfe in a 1st or 2nd gen MR2 is probably the best NA combo for all around... for streightline the V8 swapped 5th gen is probably tops (i think it was using a toyota truck motor wasnt it? or was it a domestic motor?) [right][snapback]336944[/snapback][/right] The blacktop BEAMS 3S-GE motor was only found in the Altezza...the Celica got the redtop version. And yeah, that V8 swapped ST185 used a Tundra V8...wasn't it twin-turbocharged as well? [right][snapback]336962[/snapback][/right] No. The V8 swapped ST185 used a 4.0L V8 from a Lexus LS400. And indeed it was twin-turbocharged. Back to topic, IMO 4A-GE and 3S-GE are the best. The 2ZZ-GE can be as good but it needs more aftermarket. There still ain't no cams for the damn thing. Highest HP 4A-GE i've seen is the 240HP Formula Atlantic engine. Highest HP 3S-GE i've seen is the 270PS TRD engine. Still waiting on the 2ZZ-GE to come out with similar numbers. Redtop = 200PS Blacktop = 210PS This post has been edited by BLADDER_MASTER: Sep 21, 2005 - 2:46 PM |
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Hanyo best N/A engine Sep 21, 2005 - 1:52 AM
FallenHero Probably is the 2zz for power and reliability. Ho... Sep 21, 2005 - 1:54 AM orvillescelica 3sge beams black top, but youll never find one in ... Sep 21, 2005 - 1:55 AM ST-204 Nope, it has one swapped 3S-GE "BEAMS"-b... Sep 21, 2005 - 1:59 AM Coomer I've heard bad things about the 2ZZ-GE's d... Sep 21, 2005 - 2:05 AM Hanyo i always thought the beams engine was the best, Be... Sep 21, 2005 - 2:05 AM
Dr_Tweak QUOTE(Hanyo @ Sep 21, 2005 - 7:05 AM)i always... Sep 21, 2005 - 2:41 AM macavely power to weight that has to dowith the chasie and ... Sep 21, 2005 - 8:38 AM Akimbo beams or 2zz...the 2zz ran a 13.7 with I/E/H, I do... Sep 21, 2005 - 11:38 AM FallenHero 2zz is whp per ltr.and that 13.7 was with drag sli... Sep 21, 2005 - 11:42 AM Boss-Celica Beams 3s or 20v 4age Sep 21, 2005 - 12:09 PM 95CelicaST Beams, no doubt. 4 cylinder with 210HP stock (redt... Sep 21, 2005 - 1:18 PM Shigexile QUOTE(95CelicaST @ Sep 21, 2005 - 12:18 PM)Be... Sep 21, 2005 - 1:32 PM pokemeintheeye I know everyones talking bout the blacktop Beams, ... Sep 21, 2005 - 3:56 PM ST-204 But IMO,
I do think Honda F-20C, B-18C and K-20A e... Sep 21, 2005 - 6:35 PM Shigexile QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 21, 2005 - 5:35 PM)Bu... Sep 21, 2005 - 8:19 PM ST-204 QUOTE(Shigexile @ Sep 22, 2005 - 1:19 AM)QUOT... Sep 21, 2005 - 11:21 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 22, 2005 - 4:21 AM)Ye... Sep 22, 2005 - 4:28 AM FallenHero QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 22, 2005 - 2:28 AM)QUOTE... Sep 22, 2005 - 1:08 PM boosted_K2 yea sorry i meant redtop, not blacktop i was looki... Sep 21, 2005 - 11:13 PM Hanyo who fast is a 6gc with the 2zz swap?
isn't th... Sep 23, 2005 - 6:28 PM jdg371 the 3.5 v6 (IS350) sounds like a crazy arse N/A mo... Sep 23, 2005 - 9:05 PM Silver94CelicaOwner I really like the 2ZZGE alot, its a very fun motor... Sep 23, 2005 - 9:23 PM SSJChar what are the specs on the 2zz engine? how easy/ha... Sep 24, 2005 - 2:50 PM jdg371 I thought the 2ZZ was more expensive than a 2nd ge... Sep 24, 2005 - 3:39 PM bonzaisushi Aluminum is for pop cans give me a 3s or 4a Sep 25, 2005 - 7:26 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE(bonzaisushi @ Sep 26, 2005 - 12:26 AM)A... Sep 25, 2005 - 10:52 PM BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 25, 2005 - 10:52 PM)QUOT... Sep 26, 2005 - 2:36 AM Celica_Fan Best engine 3S-GE That sounds mean as when it... Sep 26, 2005 - 2:38 AM recneps im gonna pop in here and say 2zz-ge, im biased.
... Sep 26, 2005 - 10:32 AM BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(recneps @ Sep 26, 2005 - 10:32 AM)im go... Sep 26, 2005 - 2:58 PM Shigexile QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 25, 2005 - 9:52 PM)QUOTE... Sep 26, 2005 - 1:18 PM jess_i_74 QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 23, 2005 - 10... Sep 26, 2005 - 7:11 PM ST-204 QUOTE(jess_i_74 @ Sep 27, 2005 - 12:11 AM)QUO... Sep 28, 2005 - 1:21 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:21 PM)
V... Sep 28, 2005 - 6:25 PM BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:25 PM)QUOTE... Sep 28, 2005 - 7:26 PM Celicaguy13 When talking about the 3sge beams vs 2zz-ge, all o... Sep 30, 2005 - 1:09 AM Shigexile QUOTE(Celicaguy13 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 12:09 AM)W... Sep 30, 2005 - 8:38 AM BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(Shigexile @ Sep 30, 2005 - 8:38 AM)QUOT... Sep 30, 2005 - 2:47 PM macavely QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Sep 30, 2005 - 2:47 PM... Sep 30, 2005 - 3:40 PM BLADDER_MASTER QUOTE(macavely @ Sep 30, 2005 - 3:40 PM)QUOTE... Sep 30, 2005 - 7:26 PM Shigexile QUOTE(Celicaguy13 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 12:09 AM)A... Sep 30, 2005 - 8:42 AM Celicaguy13 The elise is the one that has 190. I honestly don... Sep 30, 2005 - 5:01 PM Shigexile QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Sep 30, 2005 - 1:47 PM... Sep 30, 2005 - 7:13 PM macavely still thats not bad.... something to think about w... Sep 30, 2005 - 8:18 PM Kwanza26 200ps is like 195hp... whoopie! 5hp more than... Sep 30, 2005 - 10:45 PM Celicaguy13 QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 10:45 PM)200p... Oct 1, 2005 - 1:22 AM Bigmeanbulldog55 QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 11:45 PM)You ... Oct 1, 2005 - 1:45 AM Celicaguy13 QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Oct 1, 2005 - 1:45 A... Oct 1, 2005 - 1:55 AM Celicaguy13 By the way, sorry for being a dick. Oct 1, 2005 - 2:01 AM Hanyo BUMP FROM THE DEAD!!!
how much poten... Oct 13, 2005 - 3:03 AM macavely with any engine the potential is found by failuer ... Oct 13, 2005 - 3:11 AM Hanyo i know the ge head and the 11 compression ratio wi... Oct 13, 2005 - 3:16 AM FallenHero beams... I wonder how the pistons/rods are... tha... Oct 13, 2005 - 4:15 AM Hanyo higher compression ratio?
the beams already has 1... Oct 13, 2005 - 4:50 AM FallenHero I have heard of 13:1 on 93 octane. And I do say ... Oct 13, 2005 - 1:59 PM bonzaisushi Aluminum is for pop cans....
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Im no... Oct 13, 2005 - 3:21 PM Outsider I'd have to say for N/A it's BEAMS.
but ... Oct 13, 2005 - 6:53 PM snowbunny 2JZ-GTE
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+1 Oct 15, 2005 - 11:09 PM vangSTa_celica So the 2JZ-GTE is a N/A engine? HmmMMmm... Oct 16, 2005 - 1:02 AM Hanyo yes its a n/a engine. Its n/a before 3k rpm before... Oct 16, 2005 - 2:46 AM creis ^ actualy a true NA (2JZ-GE) motor would be better... Oct 16, 2005 - 6:26 AM maikl my engine? ti thing the main thing for you is ... Oct 16, 2005 - 11:55 AM bonzaisushi QUOTE(creis @ Oct 16, 2005 - 4:26 AM)^ actual... Oct 17, 2005 - 1:41 PM |
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