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post May 16, 2003 - 9:14 PM
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Hi all!

I think that I have mess up.

My Mechanic have a Gen 1 4AGE 20v Silver top with upgraded 264 cams with VVT

He stated to me that he still have vvt. VVT is in this case is either on or off. VVT-i is variable VVT.

Now if what he stated to me is true(which I do not have any doubt), that means that you may not lose vvt-i if you have upgrade your cams Maikl!

His cams was purchase for the 20v. I do not know if there are from Todaracing or TRD, by there cam from Miami.

I will try and see how the VVT setup works in this case tomorrow.

Just did some research, and it may seem right now that toda offer cams for VVT system.

In fact, with further research, VVT and VVT-i is in the VVT controller. But here is where the problem can arise.

Qoute from Bill Sherwood (http://www.billzilla.org/vvtvtec.htm):-

"The early VVT system was relatively simple, ie, at a specific rpm (~4400rpm on the 20 valve 4AGE's) the computer signals the OCV to open, this lets oil pressure go through a special gallery in the #1 inlet cam bearing, through the centre of the inlet cam to the VVT pulley. There's a small piston in the VVT pulley, and once it gets enough pressure behind it, it starts to move outwards, causing the outer part of the pulley to turn in relation to the inner part, due to the helical spline that guides the piston's fore & aft movement."

So if you purchase a cam not design for vvt, good bye vvt, but if you buy a cam enable vvt, you are in luck

So Maikl, there may be some hope for you.

Looking at todaracing, you can get cams with vvt.

My mistake was that once you go to a big cam, you would want to dial in the HP and torque for you driving habits or where there just occurs at their max. If you use a Cam Gear, you will lose vvt, vvt-i.

So maikl, http://www.todaracing.com/products/toyota/..._3sg_specs.html

264 would be good for you. Idle a little rough

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post May 18, 2003 - 9:47 AM
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Yes as I state to you. Once you are looking for serious power, you will lost it.

That is why I am having difficulty with you and others on low power.

Check you the Supra and others.

Yes. go for the cam gear from either HKS or Jun. I like them better than the toda.

The cams will be the 3SGTE.

It is up to you on the 264 or 272.

If you are really planning to do some really head work, 272 maybe good. My mechanic have a 4age 20v w/ 264 that idle farily rough. THe stock ecu have problems with it.

You have a aftermarket one, so it should not be a problem.

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This post has been edited by west_minist: May 18, 2003 - 8:38 PM

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- west_minist   VVT-i?? Cams upgrade   May 16, 2003 - 9:14 PM
- - maikl   so what you areb telling me is if i order the 264 ...   May 17, 2003 - 7:50 AM
- - west_minist   Yes. That good. Has he modify it let? Let me kn...   May 17, 2003 - 8:00 AM
- - maikl   no my brother is not the biggest fan of speed the ...   May 17, 2003 - 11:06 AM
- - west_minist   Yes. As I keep in telling you, contact toda racin...   May 17, 2003 - 12:06 PM
- - maikl   i had a levin before i got my ss-iii i had the bla...   May 18, 2003 - 8:50 AM
- - west_minist   Ok. I have been stress out the last couple of week...   May 18, 2003 - 9:02 AM
- - maikl   thanks........... and do what ever you thing its o...   May 18, 2003 - 9:25 AM
- - west_minist   read my update at top again. I have to modify it f...   May 18, 2003 - 9:37 AM
- - maikl   oh and something i want your oppinon what about ad...   May 18, 2003 - 9:39 AM
- - west_minist   Yes as I state to you. Once you are looking for se...   May 18, 2003 - 9:47 AM
- - west_minist   I have also contacted Jun on this matter. Can you...   May 18, 2003 - 8:36 PM
- - west_minist   Maikl! Here is an update from toda. >...   May 19, 2003 - 6:00 AM
- - maikl   thanks again you realy take this seriusly but i a...   May 19, 2003 - 9:13 AM
- - west_minist   I have not recieve any word from Jun yet. You ask...   May 19, 2003 - 1:53 PM
- - west_minist   Hi Maikl! Still no word from JUN. I sent them...   May 21, 2003 - 5:21 AM
- - maikl   no nothining yet.............. not from toda eithe...   May 21, 2003 - 12:20 PM
- - west_minist   QUOTE (maikl @ May 21, 2003 - 11:34 AM) no nothini...   May 21, 2003 - 5:50 PM
- - west_minist   Any update Maikl?   May 24, 2003 - 8:20 AM
- - maikl   nop nothing yet about the engine but i've got ...   May 24, 2003 - 9:27 AM
- - west_minist   Ok.   May 24, 2003 - 3:37 PM
- - west_minist   Hey Maikl! Did you follow up on the toda or j...   Jun 15, 2003 - 4:40 PM
- - maikl   nop at this point i have bigger problem with my ca...   Jun 16, 2003 - 5:05 AM
- - west_minist   Get either a clutch kit from toda racing or Jun C...   Jun 16, 2003 - 7:55 AM
- - maikl   well i posted this clutch proplem of my car and as...   Jun 16, 2003 - 1:42 PM


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