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post Sep 21, 2005 - 1:52 AM
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What is the best Naturally Aspired engine for toyota?

I hear beams and silver top thrown around. But what is the BEST? Which one has the most power to weight ratio? Most power after modifications?

Is the 7th gen gts engine the best n/a engine toyota offers?
 
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post Sep 26, 2005 - 7:11 PM
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QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 23, 2005 - 10:23 PM)

If Toyota would only put a newer improved version with a wider lift range and put it in a Scion or Toyota sport coupe it would be great, but it appears its no longer in Toyotas interest. rolleyes.gif
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Heh. Toyota doesn't seem to know much anymore about sporty cars. I mean, cancelling the Celica, bringing in the ugly Scion xA, B, and C, esp. the first two with their *gasp* 105 horses and styling every bit as bad as the echo. Now the xC does have some speed potential, but it's loaded with luxo options and can't touch a Celica of any vintage for looks.

Oh, offtopic. Sorry.

BTW, the idea of the 190 hp out of 1.8 L is crazy, but it certainly fits the Lotus Elise. As a daily driver I'm sure it feels pedestrian. I like the feel of having an engine's ship come in at about 3-4k.


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post Sep 28, 2005 - 1:21 PM
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QUOTE(jess_i_74 @ Sep 27, 2005 - 12:11 AM)
QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 23, 2005 - 10:23 PM)

If Toyota would only put a newer improved version with a wider lift range and put it in a Scion or Toyota sport coupe it would be great, but it appears its no longer in Toyotas interest. rolleyes.gif
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Heh. Toyota doesn't seem to know much anymore about sporty cars. I mean, cancelling the Celica, bringing in the ugly Scion xA, B, and C, esp. the first two with their *gasp* 105 horses and styling every bit as bad as the echo. Now the xC does have some speed potential, but it's loaded with luxo options and can't touch a Celica of any vintage for looks.

Oh, offtopic. Sorry.

BTW, the idea of the 190 hp out of 1.8 L is crazy, but it certainly fits the Lotus Elise. As a daily driver I'm sure it feels pedestrian. I like the feel of having an engine's ship come in at about 3-4k.
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"Toyota doesn't seem to know much anymore about sporty cars??"
For real, years ago, Toyota began to join the world's fastest auto race--Formula One. Toyota began to process and make everything for their rides, such as frame, engine, aero, and even small as a screw in their Formula One race car.
I think Toyota is not a stupid to spend so much their technologies and effort for this ****ing long time in this challenge F-1 race world, right?
Let's see, guys. Toyota should be release a super race car at a right time...
On the other hand, so do u think Honda is a sport car specialist?
Yea, Honda's cars ar fast on Street, and even on some division 2 race around the world, such as JGTC GT-300, Super-Taikyu.....
But the reason is can u see any NSX or S2000 can win some division 1 race on the workd, I can tell u the answer is "NEVER!"
Moreover, due to Toyota is the second-largest auto manufacturer in the world, his market goal is for all consumers, so Toyota seems to release more luxury and comfortable cars than sport cars. That's why the reason Honda can't catch up Toyota's sales in the world, and even Toyota's technologies.......

V-tech and i-Vtech ar so good at all, but VVTi and VVTL-i ar kind of more Hi-tech a bit than the former.... Coz the technology on VVTi and VVTL-i ar on both intake sides when it's running, but Honda's V-tech and EVEN i-Vtech ar only on one intake side. So Toyota's race technologies ar directly comeing from their valuable F-1 experience, and even their consumers all over the world......
post Sep 28, 2005 - 6:25 PM
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QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:21 PM)

V-tech and i-Vtech ar so good at all, but VVTi and VVTL-i ar kind of more Hi-tech a bit than the former.... Coz the technology on VVTi and VVTL-i ar on both intake sides when it's running, but Honda's V-tech and EVEN i-Vtech ar only on one intake side. So Toyota's race technologies ar directly comeing from their valuable F-1 experience, and even their consumers all over the world......
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You should just apologize and admit you don't know what you're talking about. You should also work on your grammar and spelling. rolleyes.gif


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post Sep 28, 2005 - 7:26 PM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:25 PM)
QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:21 PM)

V-tech and i-Vtech ar so good at all, but VVTi and VVTL-i ar kind of more Hi-tech a bit than the former.... Coz the technology on VVTi and VVTL-i ar on both intake sides when it's running, but Honda's V-tech and EVEN i-Vtech ar only on one intake side. So Toyota's race technologies ar directly comeing from their valuable F-1 experience, and even their consumers all over the world......
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You should just apologize and admit you don't know what you're talking about. You should also work on your grammar and spelling. rolleyes.gif
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- Hanyo   best N/A engine   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:52 AM
- - FallenHero   Probably is the 2zz for power and reliability. Ho...   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:54 AM
- - orvillescelica   3sge beams black top, but youll never find one in ...   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:55 AM
- - ST-204   Nope, it has one swapped 3S-GE "BEAMS"-b...   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:59 AM
- - Coomer   I've heard bad things about the 2ZZ-GE's d...   Sep 21, 2005 - 2:05 AM
- - Hanyo   i always thought the beams engine was the best, Be...   Sep 21, 2005 - 2:05 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Hanyo @ Sep 21, 2005 - 7:05 AM)i always...   Sep 21, 2005 - 2:41 AM
- - macavely   power to weight that has to dowith the chasie and ...   Sep 21, 2005 - 8:38 AM
- - Akimbo   beams or 2zz...the 2zz ran a 13.7 with I/E/H, I do...   Sep 21, 2005 - 11:38 AM
- - FallenHero   2zz is whp per ltr.and that 13.7 was with drag sli...   Sep 21, 2005 - 11:42 AM
- - boosted_K2   depends what you are talking about... car+motor fa...   Sep 21, 2005 - 11:53 AM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 21, 2005 - 9:53 AM)dep...   Sep 21, 2005 - 12:49 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(Coomer @ Sep 21, 2005 - 12:49 PM)QUOTE(...   Sep 21, 2005 - 2:45 PM
- - Boss-Celica   Beams 3s or 20v 4age   Sep 21, 2005 - 12:09 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Beams, no doubt. 4 cylinder with 210HP stock (redt...   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:18 PM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(95CelicaST @ Sep 21, 2005 - 12:18 PM)Be...   Sep 21, 2005 - 1:32 PM
- - pokemeintheeye   I know everyones talking bout the blacktop Beams, ...   Sep 21, 2005 - 3:56 PM
- - ST-204   But IMO, I do think Honda F-20C, B-18C and K-20A e...   Sep 21, 2005 - 6:35 PM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 21, 2005 - 5:35 PM)Bu...   Sep 21, 2005 - 8:19 PM
|- - ST-204   QUOTE(Shigexile @ Sep 22, 2005 - 1:19 AM)QUOT...   Sep 21, 2005 - 11:21 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 22, 2005 - 4:21 AM)Ye...   Sep 22, 2005 - 4:28 AM
|- - FallenHero   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 22, 2005 - 2:28 AM)QUOTE...   Sep 22, 2005 - 1:08 PM
- - boosted_K2   yea sorry i meant redtop, not blacktop i was looki...   Sep 21, 2005 - 11:13 PM
- - Hanyo   who fast is a 6gc with the 2zz swap? isn't th...   Sep 23, 2005 - 6:28 PM
- - jdg371   the 3.5 v6 (IS350) sounds like a crazy arse N/A mo...   Sep 23, 2005 - 9:05 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I really like the 2ZZGE alot, its a very fun motor...   Sep 23, 2005 - 9:23 PM
- - SSJChar   what are the specs on the 2zz engine? how easy/ha...   Sep 24, 2005 - 2:50 PM
- - jdg371   I thought the 2ZZ was more expensive than a 2nd ge...   Sep 24, 2005 - 3:39 PM
- - bonzaisushi   Aluminum is for pop cans give me a 3s or 4a   Sep 25, 2005 - 7:26 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(bonzaisushi @ Sep 26, 2005 - 12:26 AM)A...   Sep 25, 2005 - 10:52 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 25, 2005 - 10:52 PM)QUOT...   Sep 26, 2005 - 2:36 AM
- - Celica_Fan   Best engine 3S-GE That sounds mean as when it...   Sep 26, 2005 - 2:38 AM
- - recneps   im gonna pop in here and say 2zz-ge, im biased. ...   Sep 26, 2005 - 10:32 AM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(recneps @ Sep 26, 2005 - 10:32 AM)im go...   Sep 26, 2005 - 2:58 PM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 25, 2005 - 9:52 PM)QUOTE...   Sep 26, 2005 - 1:18 PM
- - jess_i_74   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 23, 2005 - 10...   Sep 26, 2005 - 7:11 PM
|- - ST-204   QUOTE(jess_i_74 @ Sep 27, 2005 - 12:11 AM)QUO...   Sep 28, 2005 - 1:21 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(ST-204 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:21 PM) V...   Sep 28, 2005 - 6:25 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 28, 2005 - 6:25 PM)QUOTE...   Sep 28, 2005 - 7:26 PM
- - Celicaguy13   When talking about the 3sge beams vs 2zz-ge, all o...   Sep 30, 2005 - 1:09 AM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(Celicaguy13 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 12:09 AM)W...   Sep 30, 2005 - 8:38 AM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(Shigexile @ Sep 30, 2005 - 8:38 AM)QUOT...   Sep 30, 2005 - 2:47 PM
|- - macavely   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Sep 30, 2005 - 2:47 PM...   Sep 30, 2005 - 3:40 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(macavely @ Sep 30, 2005 - 3:40 PM)QUOTE...   Sep 30, 2005 - 7:26 PM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(Celicaguy13 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 12:09 AM)A...   Sep 30, 2005 - 8:42 AM
- - Celicaguy13   The elise is the one that has 190. I honestly don...   Sep 30, 2005 - 5:01 PM
- - Shigexile   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Sep 30, 2005 - 1:47 PM...   Sep 30, 2005 - 7:13 PM
- - macavely   still thats not bad.... something to think about w...   Sep 30, 2005 - 8:18 PM
- - Kwanza26   200ps is like 195hp... whoopie! 5hp more than...   Sep 30, 2005 - 10:45 PM
- - Celicaguy13   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 10:45 PM)200p...   Oct 1, 2005 - 1:22 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Sep 30, 2005 - 11:45 PM)You ...   Oct 1, 2005 - 1:45 AM
- - Celicaguy13   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Oct 1, 2005 - 1:45 A...   Oct 1, 2005 - 1:55 AM
- - Celicaguy13   By the way, sorry for being a dick.   Oct 1, 2005 - 2:01 AM
- - Hanyo   BUMP FROM THE DEAD!!! how much poten...   Oct 13, 2005 - 3:03 AM
- - macavely   with any engine the potential is found by failuer ...   Oct 13, 2005 - 3:11 AM
- - Hanyo   i know the ge head and the 11 compression ratio wi...   Oct 13, 2005 - 3:16 AM
- - FallenHero   beams... I wonder how the pistons/rods are... tha...   Oct 13, 2005 - 4:15 AM
- - Hanyo   higher compression ratio? the beams already has 1...   Oct 13, 2005 - 4:50 AM
- - FallenHero   I have heard of 13:1 on 93 octane. And I do say ...   Oct 13, 2005 - 1:59 PM
- - bonzaisushi   Aluminum is for pop cans.... 4age, Ra24 Im no...   Oct 13, 2005 - 3:21 PM
- - Outsider   I'd have to say for N/A it's BEAMS. but ...   Oct 13, 2005 - 6:53 PM
- - snowbunny   2JZ-GTE '." +1   Oct 15, 2005 - 11:09 PM
- - vangSTa_celica   So the 2JZ-GTE is a N/A engine? HmmMMmm...   Oct 16, 2005 - 1:02 AM
- - Hanyo   yes its a n/a engine. Its n/a before 3k rpm before...   Oct 16, 2005 - 2:46 AM
- - creis   ^ actualy a true NA (2JZ-GE) motor would be better...   Oct 16, 2005 - 6:26 AM
- - maikl   my engine? ti thing the main thing for you is ...   Oct 16, 2005 - 11:55 AM
- - bonzaisushi   QUOTE(creis @ Oct 16, 2005 - 4:26 AM)^ actual...   Oct 17, 2005 - 1:41 PM


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