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post Sep 28, 2005 - 11:15 PM
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post Sep 29, 2005 - 2:09 AM
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i dont know if you read the pdf, but i just browsed threw it quickly. In a nut shell, their idea is to electrolize water into oxygen and hydrogen, combust the hydrogen at pressure in your cylinders, and there you go.

Heres why i dont think this will work:
1) Have you ever seen a balloon of hydrogen explode? That explosion is how much energy is given off when you combine hydrogen and oxygen to make water. To go in reverse, you need even more energy. So if you want to take water, turn it into gaseous hydrogen, then combust the hydrogen in oxygen to make water again, you will be expending more energy then you get.

2) The energy of hydrogen gas is about 141 kJ/g, Gasoline has about 448 kJ/g. So (wave hand approx) you need 4 times the volume of hydrogen per combusition to get the same amount of power as your gas engine. This for the same amount of miles you get out of your car now, you would have to carry a GIANT tank of hydrogen. And since hydrogen is very hard to store under high pressure... your car is going to have to be giant tank of hydrogen on wheels.


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- rocky2006   make any car run on water   Sep 28, 2005 - 11:15 PM
- - jgreening   I heard that an internal combustion engine will ru...   Sep 28, 2005 - 11:25 PM
- - Consynx   i haven't d/led that but i did see this jeep t...   Sep 28, 2005 - 11:29 PM
- - macavely   haven't looked at the link yet... but i know k...   Sep 28, 2005 - 11:57 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(macavely @ Sep 28, 2005 - 11:57 PM)have...   Sep 29, 2005 - 12:11 AM
- - orvillescelica   i dont know if you read the pdf, but i just browse...   Sep 29, 2005 - 2:09 AM
- - vangSTa_celica   QUOTEi haven't d/led that but i did see this j...   Sep 29, 2005 - 10:04 PM
- - soulshadow   I've seen something like this On T.V like 6-8 ...   Sep 29, 2005 - 10:50 PM
- - Tweek   I remember doing that in science class in high sch...   Sep 29, 2005 - 11:11 PM
- - creis   ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPSTUVWXYZ ? The idea of running a ...   Sep 29, 2005 - 11:28 PM
- - orvillescelica   QUOTE(soulshadow @ Sep 29, 2005 - 7:50 PM)I...   Sep 29, 2005 - 11:36 PM
- - Consynx   water does not compress and the amount of energy t...   Sep 30, 2005 - 1:32 AM
|- - CheesyLobster   QUOTE(Consynx @ Sep 30, 2005 - 6:32 AM)water ...   Oct 3, 2005 - 4:31 AM
- - Tweek   Here's a quote about coal dust and water: ----...   Sep 30, 2005 - 5:56 PM
- - bloodrain   a car running on water, I believe they call them ...   Sep 30, 2005 - 6:00 PM
- - vangSTa_celica   ^ Okay, I really think you guys need to read the f...   Sep 30, 2005 - 7:04 PM
- - soulshadow   Ok someone slap me. Diesal explodes when you compr...   Sep 30, 2005 - 11:19 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(soulshadow @ Sep 30, 2005 - 10:19 PM)Ok...   Oct 2, 2005 - 2:26 AM
- - 97sccelica   after reading some of the pdf i think what is bein...   Oct 1, 2005 - 11:35 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(97sccelica @ Oct 1, 2005 - 11:35 AM)jgr...   Oct 1, 2005 - 2:22 PM
- - tin_foil   ^I agree. I'm no science major, but I have hea...   Oct 1, 2005 - 3:51 PM
- - rocky2006   i think oil companies are definitly trying to stop...   Oct 2, 2005 - 1:39 AM
- - Snarfer   exactly, i think people keep thinking of "get...   Oct 2, 2005 - 3:26 PM
- - BlackSTX   That paper looks like a high school research paper...   Oct 3, 2005 - 10:59 AM
- - tin_foil   Running cars on water has not yet happened, and mi...   Oct 5, 2005 - 10:46 PM
- - Consynx   i skimmed it, but it seems to contradict itself. ...   Oct 6, 2005 - 1:42 AM
- - Consynx   oih god...i wrote that half-asleep and i'm eve...   Oct 7, 2005 - 3:09 AM


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