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post Sep 24, 2005 - 1:55 PM
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Whats the best bang for your buck, to increase your hp in a 5S-FE motor?(totally stock) How much HP upgrade should i be looking at? (with whatever your suggestion is.) And does putting Super or Premium gass really effect hp enough for it to matter?


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post Oct 9, 2005 - 9:59 PM
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QUOTE(Boss-Celica @ Oct 9, 2005 - 10:48 PM)
You can just wait till I show you my dyno sheets and all it takes is a little research to find out. But since most people don't respect the 5s, I rather not waste my breath.
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Man, I'm seriously interested in building an allmotor 5s. Why are you talking about wasting your breath? You wrote that big post there, and then you reply with this. You've obviously got the time and energy. Why won't you share what you know? I want to know what you say you know. So please, inform us curious 5s owners.


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post Oct 9, 2005 - 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Oct 10, 2005 - 2:59 AM)
QUOTE(Boss-Celica @ Oct 9, 2005 - 10:48 PM)
You can just wait till I show you my dyno sheets and all it takes is a little research to find out. But since most people don't respect the 5s, I rather not waste my breath.
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Man, I'm seriously interested in building an allmotor 5s. Why are you talking about wasting your breath? You wrote that big post there, and then you reply with this. You've obviously got the time and energy. Why won't you share what you know? I want to know what you say you know. So please, inform us curious 5s owners.
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I'd like to know also. Enlighten us lesser folk than you.

I have said before... and I do say again... the 5S bottom-end has inherent disadvantages as an n/a motor because of its poor rod/stroke ratio. Long stroke with short rods = poor piston dwell which equals poor n/a performance (inability to make torque in the higher revs). You can cry all you want about "the head makes power"... but hey... does your nose/mouth breathe without your lungs? Same concept... the head can "POTENTIALLY" breathe better... but if the bottom-end's geometry doesn't fully utilize the head... you're stuck.

I'd pick apart your post... but it would serve no purpose since you clearly have already made up your mind. Like I always say... build it and prove me wrong.

To close... it depends on what you folks want to do with your 5SFE. You can squeeze additional power with basic bolt-ons, cams, tuning, etc... but the 5SFE or 5SGE for that matter will never make n/a power without doing something about the rod/stroke ratio. Finally... Jim Snodgrass, a well known MR2 tuner and a tuner of the 5SFE (owns the highest known hp rating on an n/a 5SFE) has already tried unsuccessfully to build a good 5SGE. He ended up going 5SGTE instead if I remember correctly...

If you think otherwise... thrown down some technical infor and let's discuss...


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- devilsden97   Gt HP boost   Sep 24, 2005 - 1:55 PM
- - shin   first of all. do a search before you post. this ha...   Sep 24, 2005 - 2:21 PM
- - devilsden97   yeah i know about the search, sorry lazyness set i...   Sep 24, 2005 - 2:29 PM
- - shin   for CAI... 10 is too much IMO.... i'll probabl...   Sep 24, 2005 - 3:46 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I'd say sence it's a 95, a tune up is your...   Sep 24, 2005 - 11:26 PM
- - macavely   well here is something that doesn't get talked...   Sep 27, 2005 - 12:18 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Its only a matter of time before a 6gc'er does...   Sep 27, 2005 - 12:38 AM
- - Kwanza26   I personally don't feel a true n/a 5SFE can be...   Sep 27, 2005 - 10:50 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   This is true...it wont take on much life without F...   Sep 27, 2005 - 4:57 PM
- - TTE   When I drive my MR2 Turbo with my friend's MR2...   Sep 27, 2005 - 8:30 PM
|- - blu94gt   QUOTE(TTE @ Sep 27, 2005 - 8:30 PM)When I dri...   Sep 28, 2005 - 12:19 PM
|- - TTE   QUOTE(blu94gt @ Sep 28, 2005 - 10:19 AM)QUOTE...   Oct 6, 2005 - 3:44 PM
- - devilsden97   basically it seems that most agree that a full exa...   Sep 29, 2005 - 9:42 AM
- - shin   like i said before. you should do a search before ...   Sep 29, 2005 - 11:04 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   As for the header, I'm currently trying to fin...   Sep 29, 2005 - 11:12 AM
- - celicast3sgte   get a 2.5" exahaust that way it wont hurt per...   Oct 6, 2005 - 7:07 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I know I've probably said it before, but if an...   Oct 7, 2005 - 12:17 AM
- - frosty   There should just be a sticky on this.   Oct 7, 2005 - 11:55 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(frosty @ Oct 7, 2005 - 12:55 PM)There s...   Oct 7, 2005 - 12:52 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Yes we should have a sticky on this since this for...   Oct 7, 2005 - 1:42 PM
- - Boss-Celica   Ok first off I'm a friend of this guy's SN...   Oct 9, 2005 - 9:25 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Boss-Celica @ Oct 9, 2005 - 10:25 ...   Oct 9, 2005 - 9:40 PM
- - Boss-Celica   You can just wait till I show you my dyno sheets a...   Oct 9, 2005 - 9:48 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Boss-Celica @ Oct 9, 2005 - 10:48 ...   Oct 9, 2005 - 9:59 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Oct 10, 2005 - 2:59 ...   Oct 9, 2005 - 10:18 PM
- - Boss-Celica   If your really that interested, you can stop by ou...   Oct 9, 2005 - 10:06 PM


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