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post Oct 13, 2005 - 11:33 PM
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there are so many pros and cons to both the 3sge and 5sfte. although the 3sge is cheaper, im not sure i have the mechanical ability to swap the engine successfully although it would probably be more reliable than the turbo setup. however, the 5sfte makes more power, i can put it together, BUT it also costs more and is less reliable. the 3sge is also a tough motor to find. what do you guys think?

edit: i have a 5th gen, so if anything id prob. be swapping a 2nd gen 3sge

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post Oct 17, 2005 - 12:19 AM
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2nd gen 3SGE is great... but the 3rd gen can be had for relatively the same price. The 3rd gen has a superior head and can wear just about any size cams without much bother to the valvetrain (upgraded springs for the very high lift cams)... One thing I HATE about the 2nd and 3rd gen 3SGE's... that bloody ACIS intake manifold. Hello ITB's...

IMO... both the 2nd and 3rd gen 3SGE's are well worth the investment. The BEAMS is expensive, rare, and overrated IMO (basically the same thing as the older ones. The only MAJOR differences are, different intake manifold and VVTi. Power difference comes mostly from cams and its increased compression over the older models [10:1 for 2nd, 10:5 for 3rd, and 11:1 for redtop BEAMS if I remember correctly])... so price-wise, time-wise... 2nd or 3rd gen beats it easily. We should all just admit... the BEAMS's shiny red valvecover is the best selling point about that motor... ;]


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- ummmx2   3sge or 5sfte   Oct 13, 2005 - 11:33 PM
- - lagos   the major thing i would worry about the 3sGE engin...   Oct 13, 2005 - 11:36 PM
- - MonsterBOX   why not a gte its just as much as a ge   Oct 13, 2005 - 11:52 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 14, 2005 - 12:36 AM)the maj...   Oct 14, 2005 - 12:13 AM
- - lagos   you still need some wiring skills to hook up a sta...   Oct 14, 2005 - 12:35 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 14, 2005 - 1:35 AM)you stil...   Oct 14, 2005 - 1:32 AM
- - ummmx2   actually the 2nd gen 3sge is MUCH cheaper than all...   Oct 14, 2005 - 8:50 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   What exactly is the 2nd gen 3sge? Did it come in ...   Oct 14, 2005 - 9:02 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(ummmx2 @ Oct 14, 2005 - 8:50 PM)actuall...   Oct 14, 2005 - 9:44 PM
- - MonsterBOX   2nd gen 3sge is def not a beams so its prob not wo...   Oct 15, 2005 - 12:01 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(MonsterBOX @ Oct 15, 2005 - 12:01 PM)2n...   Oct 15, 2005 - 1:46 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(MonsterBOX @ Oct 15, 2005 - 1:01 PM)2nd...   Oct 15, 2005 - 12:09 PM
- - ummmx2   2nd gen 3sge came in the 5th gen celica overseas. ...   Oct 15, 2005 - 1:47 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   So what if it only has 160hp? A stock B16 has som...   Oct 15, 2005 - 7:39 PM
- - soulshadow   Its true, but u should at least get a complete swa...   Oct 16, 2005 - 10:50 AM
- - MonsterBOX   ok well imho dont get a 3sge unless its a beams......   Oct 16, 2005 - 1:55 PM
- - kevstir   if your going 3s-ge m8 its ether the rev 3 172-177...   Oct 16, 2005 - 6:14 PM
- - Kwanza26   2nd gen 3SGE is great... but the 3rd gen can be ha...   Oct 17, 2005 - 12:19 AM
- - kevstir   having owned a Celica for the last 4 years with th...   Oct 17, 2005 - 3:46 AM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(kevstir @ Oct 17, 2005 - 3:46 AM)having...   Oct 17, 2005 - 2:31 PM
- - ummmx2   but wouldnt the 2nd gen 3sge be a lot easier to wi...   Oct 17, 2005 - 12:35 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(ummmx2 @ Oct 17, 2005 - 12:35 PM)but wo...   Oct 17, 2005 - 2:28 PM
- - Digndoug   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Oct 14, 2005 - 9:02 ...   Oct 17, 2005 - 2:01 PM
- - kevstir   If i could i would m8 but theres no way im importi...   Oct 17, 2005 - 2:51 PM


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