our ST's are just slow!, even with the 4age swap its still slow.. Options

[soulshadow]

Went to a racing meet today In faytteville. I saw some really nice cars and a crazy hot looking chic flash for us . I went racing against an nissan (old school car forgot what it was called), and B16 JDM type civic swap. Unfort. lets just say that my car is slow. Lost to both cars. My car is completely stock + stock 4age ST engine (stock) too.

Im at the point where drag racing is out of the question, cause my car is so slow and furthure engine mods are somewhat useless cause Im so poor.

I was thinking somewhere that I might get a GTS and swap it out with a BEAMS motor. I want NA, cause its just less maintence.

Any comments.. (yes! im stupid cause I race on the streets)

[soulshadow]

Its a 4age Silvertop, and yes it is running correctly with a different AFM and damaged (repaired now) ecu. It idles good, runs smooth- a few things I yet have to change (fuel filter) and pulls hard. It tops off at 7.5 and won't go any futher.

Its just that the car is so heavy that with the engine swapped in, it doesn't really make much of a difference. I got my ass kiked by a JDM civic and that was a major let down (swapped), cause I got my ass kiked before by a turbo eclipse GST(when I still had the 7A engine) [even more of a let down]. I feel like without the 3s engines our 6G cars are like crap compared to others and the thing is with the GT models, U don't have to go out and spend a crap load on motor mounts and shift cables, cause thats the only major difference in engine reqs.

Sure motor X is awesome and I could probbaly win. But who the heck is going to challenge me outside of the tracks? Down here everybody is a wimp, and they only do drags. A friend of mine owns an SI 2004 model and when he wanted to race corners. I agreed. Then he saw my engine and said He wants to wait untill he gets his K-pro or some crap thingy for his civic!

Plain and simple, no matter what we do ST's are just SLOW~

I want a good MPG car, not some gas guzzling muscle car that runs low 12's but at the same time eats your paycheck at fill ups.

[nik]

I feel like without the 3s engines our 6G cars are like crap compared to others and the thing is with the GT models, U don't have to go out and spend a crap load on motor mounts and shift cables, cause thats the only major difference in engine reqs.

Plain and simple, no matter what we do ST's are just SLOW~

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we will see not all ST are slow my old turbo 7afte was quick nothing to write home about but beat alot of cars around me 98 GSX, acura rsx type S to name 2 but once the car is finished with the 7agte this st wont be slow at all

This post has been edited by nik: Oct 27, 2005 - 3:15 PM

[Drew-887]

I feel like without the 3s engines our 6G cars are like crap compared to others and the thing is with the GT models, U don't have to go out and spend a crap load on motor mounts and shift cables, cause thats the only major difference in engine reqs.

Plain and simple, no matter what we do ST's are just SLOW~

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we will see not all ST are slow my old turbo 7afte was quick nothing to right home about but beat alot of cars around me 98 GSX, acura rsx type S to name 2 but once the car is finished with the 7agte this st wont be slow at all
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Damn soulshadow you make me feel bad about my ST. That is until I remember Nik's ST. What exactly is a 7agte. Im a newbie so i dont understand what that is. Would soulshadows ST be alot faster if it had a 4agze swap instead?

[jdg371]

Damn soulshadow you make me feel bad about my ST. That is until I remember Nik's ST. What exactly is a 7agte. Im a newbie so i dont understand what that is. Would soulshadows ST be alot faster if it had a 4agze swap instead?
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Yea it would be quicker with the GZE

a 7AGTE is a 7A block mated to a 4AGE Head with 4A internals(not sure) with a turbo for the extra umph

[nik]

Damn soulshadow you make me feel bad about my ST. That is until I remember Nik's ST. What exactly is a 7agte. Im a newbie so i dont understand what that is. Would soulshadows ST be alot faster if it had a 4agze swap instead?
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Yea it would be quicker with the GZE

a 7AGTE is a 7A block mated to a 4AGE Head with 4A internals(not sure) with a turbo for the extra umph
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just to clean things up
internals are 7afe spec crank, rods (pautor or stock), but pistons are 4ag spec or custom
and yes the head of a 4ag be it 20v st or bt, 4ag 16v red or blue or supercharged big or small port

than N/A or turbo or supercharged