Secret abortions Options

[ToYCeLi8]

Well Thanksgiving just passing and Xmas coming up, all these family holidays coming up, I have been spending more time w/ my family and friends as you are. Also meeting newborn baby cousins.

All this baby talk brought up subjects about the starting of new families and abortions, unfortunatly.

Some of my cousins feel they are ready to start a family other don't and what not. But when abortions came up, a friend of my aunts spoke about an abortion she had when she was younger and never told the father. It turned into a crazy night I rather not go into but here is my question or topic for this thread is, and its aimed at the men:

If a girl you had relations with, YES EVEN A 1 NIGHT STAND, got pregnant with YOUR child (don't argue, its YOURS), and she had an abortion, would you want to know before she did it? Or not be told at all and be fine with it after its done?

Yes you can state your reasons why you would or wouldn't have a baby now.

For me, I would DEFINATLY want to know. Even though it might not be planned, I feel if it took 2 people to make a child, then those 2 people should decide whether or not to keep the child. Right now I am going through some rough times financially so I know I cannot raise a child. My mind set isn't ready either. I really don't plan on having a child until I am about 28, so 6 more years. An abortion is a major descision so it does take time to make sure it is the one you want to make and not regret it. Realistically, I would prefer to put the baby up for adoption. Save a life and help a family.

Mods: I hope this doesn't start a war on 6gc, its just something I took serious when it was so close to my family. So members please do not attack other people's opinions.

David

[Supersprynt]

Thats right your saying there should be no choice, in America your saying there should be no choice.

Pro Choice doesnt mean pro-death or pro killing. Why do I know this? Because I rather not see babies killed but at conception its not a baby, its a fertilized egg and I'm pro choice. You should be ashamed of yourself for making this comment, its quite ignorant.

I think his statement is quite rational and informed myself. What about abortion right before delivery? Are you saying that is not pro-killing? The fact is that at some point during the pregnancy, the baby is able to live outside the womb without the mother. The fact that women can abort after that point is shameful in my opinion because the woman is choosing to kill the baby (or terminate the pregnancy for you people that like to mince words) instead of going through the discomfort of child birth. For the time period before that, its a more difficult question IMO.

As for this "freedom" argument, I think people can take it too far. Society sets up all kinds of laws that each take away freedom but which are beneficial. For example: Its against the law to run a red light. Does that take away freedom? Sure. But, it also makes perfect sense and nobody would suggest it is "bad" merely because people are not free to do so. The same can be said for murder. Sure, the murderer has his "freedom" to kill taken away but most of us agree that the losing this freedom is a good thing. This brings us to abortion. For those that believe that life begins sometime prior to birth, a law to protect that innocent life is justified and the liberty interest in getting rid of the baby hardly worth protecting.

You forgot to quote me where I say until a certain time the fetus cant live outside the body, and that I agree theres a definate point where abortion just isnt an option.

And when can you call it life when is it a baby, thats never going to be settled, thats never going to be agreed upon, this argument, will never be agreed upon. IMO theres a definite point where abortion cannot be an option, but there is a point where it is. Even if there are severe restrictions on this I'm fine with it. But definately restrictions. All the rest of that argument comes down to when is it life when is it a real baby and not just a fetus that cant be outside the mother yet.