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post Dec 20, 2005 - 4:22 PM
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Im looking for dyno graphs of 7afe and 4age, Im interested in possibly doing this swap, however I would like to beable to compair the powerbands of the 2. I am concerened with the low end powerband of the 4age. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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post Dec 29, 2005 - 5:32 PM
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It's very hard to build a 200whp n/a toyota engine. Even modded Beams 3SGE's only make around 180whp without some aftermarket cams... Cams can hurt streetability. 2ZZGE's have reached 200whp... but it's not practical power cause the engine is small and usually located above 8000 rpms. A 20V will have a hard time seeing 200whp without being opened up for higher comp pistons and cams... not even mentioning the mandatory standalone ecu.


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 5:52 PM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 29, 2005 - 4:32 PM) [snapback]372646[/snapback]

It's very hard to build a 200whp n/a toyota engine. Even modded Beams 3SGE's only make around 180whp without some aftermarket cams... Cams can hurt streetability. 2ZZGE's have reached 200whp... but it's not practical power cause the engine is small and usually located above 8000 rpms. A 20V will have a hard time seeing 200whp without being opened up for higher comp pistons and cams... not even mentioning the mandatory standalone ecu.


this is where i like honda motors in N/A apps. like k series motor


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 9:50 PM
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QUOTE(nik @ Dec 29, 2005 - 3:52 PM) [snapback]372656[/snapback]

QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 29, 2005 - 4:32 PM) [snapback]372646[/snapback]

It's very hard to build a 200whp n/a toyota engine. Even modded Beams 3SGE's only make around 180whp without some aftermarket cams... Cams can hurt streetability. 2ZZGE's have reached 200whp... but it's not practical power cause the engine is small and usually located above 8000 rpms. A 20V will have a hard time seeing 200whp without being opened up for higher comp pistons and cams... not even mentioning the mandatory standalone ecu.


this is where i like honda motors in N/A apps. like k series motor




"Not looking for 200hp" Im honestly shooting more for like 150-160whp that should be a great improvement over the 115 Im running now(if I even have that with the horrible compression #s I have)

I agree hondas are the king of the N/A motor. They are so easy to extract power from, however I do not like alot of the other characteristics of the hondas I have driven. Hense why I sold my integra and came back with my second celica smile.gif

Posts in this topic
- 95ST   4age vs 7afe   Dec 20, 2005 - 4:22 PM
- - playr158   off the line the 4a will lag a little but is much ...   Dec 20, 2005 - 4:29 PM
- - 95ST   yeah, but Im looking at the daily driving aspect o...   Dec 20, 2005 - 4:48 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(95ST @ Dec 20, 2005 - 9:48 PM)...   Dec 20, 2005 - 11:29 PM
- - 95ST   r u saying the 4age is a dog below 4,000? or is it...   Dec 21, 2005 - 12:05 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   The 7AFE is a dog below 4000, lol. Below 4000 th...   Dec 21, 2005 - 1:05 AM
- - 95ST   below 2000 isnt much of a problem dont spend much ...   Dec 21, 2005 - 7:02 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(95ST @ Dec 21, 2005 - 6:02 PM)...   Dec 21, 2005 - 7:11 PM
- - 95ST   Im more interested in the high end of the 4a howev...   Dec 21, 2005 - 7:17 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(95ST @ Dec 21, 2005 - 6:17 PM)...   Dec 21, 2005 - 7:22 PM
- - 95ST   I will deffinatly hit him up if I have any questio...   Dec 21, 2005 - 7:32 PM
- - Kwanza26   The 7AFE doesn't make more torque than the 4AG...   Dec 25, 2005 - 1:49 AM
- - akiyama   7afe has an economical head design compaired to th...   Dec 26, 2005 - 2:50 AM
|- - 95ST   QUOTE(akiyama @ Dec 26, 2005 - 12:50...   Dec 28, 2005 - 8:52 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(95ST @ Dec 28, 2005 - 7:52 PM)...   Dec 29, 2005 - 11:38 AM
- - nik   hey Kwanza26 whats your opion on 7age?   Dec 27, 2005 - 11:39 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(nik @ Dec 27, 2005 - 4:39 PM) ...   Dec 27, 2005 - 9:44 PM
- - Kwanza26   It's very hard to build a 200whp n/a toyota en...   Dec 29, 2005 - 5:32 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 29, 2005 - 4:32...   Dec 29, 2005 - 5:52 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(nik @ Dec 29, 2005 - 10:52 PM)...   Dec 29, 2005 - 6:13 PM
|- - 95ST   QUOTE(nik @ Dec 29, 2005 - 3:52 PM) ...   Dec 29, 2005 - 9:50 PM
- - pure_dx   ^agreed, im not looking for 200whp for my st eithe...   Dec 30, 2005 - 1:20 AM


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