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> V6 swap, for me, better than 3S-GTE, Yep, here we go again
post Jan 18, 2006 - 7:53 PM
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It can be done, i know that.

I'm currently exploring my options for the possibilty of that swap.

I'm desperate to know more about it. I searched but all i can find is the same darn thing over and over "is it possible yes, blah blah blah". I need more details. I read adrian's posts in celicatech.com but he just wrote a scratch about it. I'm thinking about getting a 3MZ-FE and this is where I get confused.

From what I understand the 3MZ is a bored out 1MZ with vvti slapped on, this would mean that it would be possible to stuff a 230hp/242trq N/A engine with a 5spd (from the camry). Yumm !! But really, how does it compare to the 1MZ-FE on the outside. The 1MZ swap has been done on a 5th gen, as far as i know dimensions are identical (or very close) to the 6th gen. I know this will require alot of custom work that exceeds my knowlege/experience with car mecanics but i will seek help from my local gear heads to get this done. Right now i just have to know what goes and what doesn't as far as major components go (engine, tranny, etc...).

I'm really concidering this swap because a few things in my drivetrain are going.... concidering that my 5S-FE has 265k+ kms and i beat the shnit out of it everyday*. (what's the point of owning a sports car if ur gonna drive like a grandma). Something is going to break and I don't want to invest into what I already have, if i'm going to drop some money into my celica, i want something out of it.

Thanks in advance for your help

(p.s. found a 99' 1MZ-FE at a junk yard close to here for $900 cnd)


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post Jan 19, 2006 - 3:03 PM
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Thank you very much for the response (most of ya tongue.gif)
Specialy Clipsetuner and Doc - I'm printing all that info out, it's what I need smile.gif thanks again

aside from your constructive critisim (meaning it has been worth something) Kwanza26, thank you for the info on the 3MZ, this is what i was looking for.

as far as $$ go, no one will prove me that a 3S-GTE will cost me less. I have crunched the numbers with the highest cost expectation for the swap and still, the V6 beats the 3S-GTE by a large margin, concidering getting one and upkeeping it. (supreme costs more than regular btw tongue.gif) I can find most of the parts localy and thats a big factor for me.


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JDM 96 MR2-T Faster - 94 Celica GT 3MZFE Funner - 99 Rav 4 AWD Handy

Posts in this topic
- K-ESD   V6 swap, for me, better than 3S-GTE   Jan 18, 2006 - 7:53 PM
- - Kwanza26   I'll say the MZ series engines are basically b...   Jan 18, 2006 - 8:12 PM
- - Supersprynt   But Kwanza, he already said it was better than 3sg...   Jan 18, 2006 - 8:30 PM
- - K-ESD   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 18, 2006 - 9:12...   Jan 18, 2006 - 8:31 PM
- - Supersprynt   IMO the only thing you got going for this swap is ...   Jan 18, 2006 - 9:23 PM
- - yungazzdriver   yeah i mean if u wanna get the mz then go for it m...   Jan 18, 2006 - 9:24 PM
- - Clipsetuner   Well someone fineally brought this up, I plan on d...   Jan 18, 2006 - 9:31 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   I'm doing this swap this summer. After that, I...   Jan 18, 2006 - 9:44 PM
|- - BBoYRuGGeD   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 19, 2006 - 2:44...   Jan 19, 2006 - 12:13 AM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 18, 2006 - 6:44...   Jan 19, 2006 - 12:16 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(yungazzdriver @ Jan 18, 2006 - 9...   Jan 19, 2006 - 2:02 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 19, 2006 - 7:02 AM...   Jan 19, 2006 - 2:49 AM
- - Blakout16   i think tweak will be able to do it, clipsetuner h...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:59 AM
- - K-ESD   btw i am not the one that is going to do this swap...   Jan 19, 2006 - 6:25 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(K-ESD @ Jan 19, 2006 - 11...   Jan 19, 2006 - 1:04 PM
- - presure2   its not a matter of if, its definetly doable, one ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:15 AM
- - Clipsetuner   Allright I will state from the start I am NO exper...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:17 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   Yes, I'm planning on doing one on a 6th gen th...   Jan 19, 2006 - 10:14 AM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 19, 2006 - 10:1...   Jan 19, 2006 - 12:50 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE ...this is a very good point...long term...i...   Jan 19, 2006 - 1:14 PM
|- - snapshotgt   snapshotgt: ...this is a very good point...long t...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:13 PM
- - Einhander   Just so you know, When all is said and done, You...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:17 AM
- - Clipsetuner   Its not that im looking to save money, you cant do...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:32 AM
- - Einhander   The pricing thing was directed toward the original...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:38 AM
- - Clipsetuner   I think with his limited hands on experiance his c...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:44 AM
- - Einhander   It'll be done eventually. I personally would a...   Jan 19, 2006 - 9:06 AM
- - Jeremy1210   I think its a great idea, and kudos to you folks f...   Jan 19, 2006 - 10:10 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Jeremy1210 @ Jan 19, 2006 - 3...   Jan 19, 2006 - 12:57 PM
- - Punch   help on the new swap, dont turn the man away let h...   Jan 19, 2006 - 10:28 AM
- - Shigexile   man, i didn't know that corola's and solor...   Jan 19, 2006 - 11:20 AM
- - celi_gt_racer   This whole concept is completely awesome..... and ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 11:56 AM
- - K-ESD   Thank you very much for the response (most of ya )...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:03 PM
- - K-ESD   as for the labour, my "team", as i would...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:20 PM
- - K-ESD   hood clearance is gonna be an issue... unless ther...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:35 PM
- - K-ESD   Sorry for the consecutive posts i picked this out...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:47 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(K-ESD @ Jan 19, 2006 - 3...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:54 PM
- - K-ESD   it's very true i depend on many in order to ac...   Jan 19, 2006 - 4:32 PM
- - Kwanza26   The only thing a man can rely on is what he can an...   Jan 19, 2006 - 4:43 PM
- - K-ESD   right i'm still going to attempt it even if i...   Jan 19, 2006 - 4:56 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(K-ESD @ Jan 19, 2006 - 4...   Jan 19, 2006 - 5:01 PM
- - K-ESD   at least i always have you guys to help me figure ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 5:07 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(K-ESD @ Jan 19, 2006 - 5...   Jan 19, 2006 - 5:12 PM
- - K-ESD   sorry for being french, i have a hard time to expr...   Jan 19, 2006 - 5:38 PM
- - celi_gt_racer   If this swap does become more practical and i stil...   Jan 19, 2006 - 5:41 PM
- - Hanyo   i think its good to through some negative opinons ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:24 PM
- - Clipsetuner   12 hours later and all this pops up, I dont think ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 9:14 PM
- - K-ESD   this thread is just the begining i've copied ...   Jan 20, 2006 - 6:29 AM
- - Clipsetuner   So I gathered more info today for the mass's. ...   Jan 20, 2006 - 7:34 AM
- - lagos   how much does this motor make at the wheels and at...   Jan 20, 2006 - 9:34 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 21, 2006 - 2:34 AM...   Jan 20, 2006 - 9:59 PM


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