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post Jan 18, 2006 - 7:53 PM
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It can be done, i know that.

I'm currently exploring my options for the possibilty of that swap.

I'm desperate to know more about it. I searched but all i can find is the same darn thing over and over "is it possible yes, blah blah blah". I need more details. I read adrian's posts in celicatech.com but he just wrote a scratch about it. I'm thinking about getting a 3MZ-FE and this is where I get confused.

From what I understand the 3MZ is a bored out 1MZ with vvti slapped on, this would mean that it would be possible to stuff a 230hp/242trq N/A engine with a 5spd (from the camry). Yumm !! But really, how does it compare to the 1MZ-FE on the outside. The 1MZ swap has been done on a 5th gen, as far as i know dimensions are identical (or very close) to the 6th gen. I know this will require alot of custom work that exceeds my knowlege/experience with car mecanics but i will seek help from my local gear heads to get this done. Right now i just have to know what goes and what doesn't as far as major components go (engine, tranny, etc...).

I'm really concidering this swap because a few things in my drivetrain are going.... concidering that my 5S-FE has 265k+ kms and i beat the shnit out of it everyday*. (what's the point of owning a sports car if ur gonna drive like a grandma). Something is going to break and I don't want to invest into what I already have, if i'm going to drop some money into my celica, i want something out of it.

Thanks in advance for your help

(p.s. found a 99' 1MZ-FE at a junk yard close to here for $900 cnd)


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post Jan 20, 2006 - 9:34 PM
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how much does this motor make at the wheels and at the crank in stock trim?


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post Jan 20, 2006 - 9:59 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 21, 2006 - 2:34 AM) [snapback]381690[/snapback]

how much does this motor make at the wheels and at the crank in stock trim?


Not sure on the wheels, but at the crank it's between 190 and 210 I think, depending on which version you get.

Like clipsetuner said, there isn't much else that can be added to the debate until one of us does it and can say for sure one way or the other.

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Posts in this topic
- K-ESD   V6 swap, for me, better than 3S-GTE   Jan 18, 2006 - 7:53 PM
- - Kwanza26   I'll say the MZ series engines are basically b...   Jan 18, 2006 - 8:12 PM
- - Supersprynt   But Kwanza, he already said it was better than 3sg...   Jan 18, 2006 - 8:30 PM
- - K-ESD   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jan 18, 2006 - 9:12...   Jan 18, 2006 - 8:31 PM
- - Supersprynt   IMO the only thing you got going for this swap is ...   Jan 18, 2006 - 9:23 PM
- - yungazzdriver   yeah i mean if u wanna get the mz then go for it m...   Jan 18, 2006 - 9:24 PM
- - Clipsetuner   Well someone fineally brought this up, I plan on d...   Jan 18, 2006 - 9:31 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   I'm doing this swap this summer. After that, I...   Jan 18, 2006 - 9:44 PM
|- - BBoYRuGGeD   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 19, 2006 - 2:44...   Jan 19, 2006 - 12:13 AM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 18, 2006 - 6:44...   Jan 19, 2006 - 12:16 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(yungazzdriver @ Jan 18, 2006 - 9...   Jan 19, 2006 - 2:02 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 19, 2006 - 7:02 AM...   Jan 19, 2006 - 2:49 AM
- - Blakout16   i think tweak will be able to do it, clipsetuner h...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:59 AM
- - K-ESD   btw i am not the one that is going to do this swap...   Jan 19, 2006 - 6:25 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(K-ESD @ Jan 19, 2006 - 11...   Jan 19, 2006 - 1:04 PM
- - presure2   its not a matter of if, its definetly doable, one ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:15 AM
- - Clipsetuner   Allright I will state from the start I am NO exper...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:17 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   Yes, I'm planning on doing one on a 6th gen th...   Jan 19, 2006 - 10:14 AM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 19, 2006 - 10:1...   Jan 19, 2006 - 12:50 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE ...this is a very good point...long term...i...   Jan 19, 2006 - 1:14 PM
|- - snapshotgt   snapshotgt: ...this is a very good point...long t...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:13 PM
- - Einhander   Just so you know, When all is said and done, You...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:17 AM
- - Clipsetuner   Its not that im looking to save money, you cant do...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:32 AM
- - Einhander   The pricing thing was directed toward the original...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:38 AM
- - Clipsetuner   I think with his limited hands on experiance his c...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:44 AM
- - Einhander   It'll be done eventually. I personally would a...   Jan 19, 2006 - 9:06 AM
- - Jeremy1210   I think its a great idea, and kudos to you folks f...   Jan 19, 2006 - 10:10 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Jeremy1210 @ Jan 19, 2006 - 3...   Jan 19, 2006 - 12:57 PM
- - Punch   help on the new swap, dont turn the man away let h...   Jan 19, 2006 - 10:28 AM
- - Shigexile   man, i didn't know that corola's and solor...   Jan 19, 2006 - 11:20 AM
- - celi_gt_racer   This whole concept is completely awesome..... and ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 11:56 AM
- - K-ESD   Thank you very much for the response (most of ya )...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:03 PM
- - K-ESD   as for the labour, my "team", as i would...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:20 PM
- - K-ESD   hood clearance is gonna be an issue... unless ther...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:35 PM
- - K-ESD   Sorry for the consecutive posts i picked this out...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:47 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(K-ESD @ Jan 19, 2006 - 3...   Jan 19, 2006 - 3:54 PM
- - K-ESD   it's very true i depend on many in order to ac...   Jan 19, 2006 - 4:32 PM
- - Kwanza26   The only thing a man can rely on is what he can an...   Jan 19, 2006 - 4:43 PM
- - K-ESD   right i'm still going to attempt it even if i...   Jan 19, 2006 - 4:56 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(K-ESD @ Jan 19, 2006 - 4...   Jan 19, 2006 - 5:01 PM
- - K-ESD   at least i always have you guys to help me figure ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 5:07 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(K-ESD @ Jan 19, 2006 - 5...   Jan 19, 2006 - 5:12 PM
- - K-ESD   sorry for being french, i have a hard time to expr...   Jan 19, 2006 - 5:38 PM
- - celi_gt_racer   If this swap does become more practical and i stil...   Jan 19, 2006 - 5:41 PM
- - Hanyo   i think its good to through some negative opinons ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 8:24 PM
- - Clipsetuner   12 hours later and all this pops up, I dont think ...   Jan 19, 2006 - 9:14 PM
- - K-ESD   this thread is just the begining i've copied ...   Jan 20, 2006 - 6:29 AM
- - Clipsetuner   So I gathered more info today for the mass's. ...   Jan 20, 2006 - 7:34 AM
- - lagos   how much does this motor make at the wheels and at...   Jan 20, 2006 - 9:34 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 21, 2006 - 2:34 AM...   Jan 20, 2006 - 9:59 PM


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