Talk about cheaply turbo-ing a 5sfe, BADDDDDDD Options

[x_itchy_b_x]

at least its a 5th gen owner.

[x_itchy_b_x]

im going to say it impossible to even get ANY 12v motor to supply enough air to any combustion motor. no way no how. and lets pretend it does work lol. you still need to upgrade the fuel system and the timing and the sensors. its just not practical. and its only a fan. it can push air yes but it cant Pressurize a chamber.

now maybe a 10hp shop vac fan could do something

im sorry, but you sound ignorant on this. what do you call a turbo compressor? its a fan, a highly specialized fan. its a radial fan as opposed to an axial fan your probably talking about, but still. now your right, a 12v motor isnt going to be powerful enough without very high amperage (but that will cause overheating issues) to supply the air needed, but thats why theres AC inverters and transformers by the way, "it can push air but it cant pressurize a chamber." i would like you to read that again to yourself. if you cut a hole in a box, put a room fan in the hole and turn it on, tada a pressurized chamber, although wouldnt be that much over atmosperic with a low power room fan. guys this is very practical, it just needs to be done correctly.

also, if i do get the chance to build this as a senior project, i would most likely use the compressor housing off of a turbo.

im not saying electric isnt possible but no 12v fan contraption like this can possibly do anything.
ive seen REAL electric supercharges man. they have them already...... they cost close to 1k and you can only run them for 15 seconds. due to the motors heating up and not having enough current to power them.
and yes they use a compressor. like a pro charger setup just where the pully is they mount a high power motor.

heres the link of a real one http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight/

This post has been edited by x_itchy_b_x: Feb 9, 2006 - 3:23 PM

[celicaST]

im going to say it impossible to even get ANY 12v motor to supply enough air to any combustion motor. no way no how. and lets pretend it does work lol. you still need to upgrade the fuel system and the timing and the sensors. its just not practical. and its only a fan. it can push air yes but it cant Pressurize a chamber.

now maybe a 10hp shop vac fan could do something

im sorry, but you sound ignorant on this. what do you call a turbo compressor? its a fan, a highly specialized fan. its a radial fan as opposed to an axial fan your probably talking about, but still. now your right, a 12v motor isnt going to be powerful enough without very high amperage (but that will cause overheating issues) to supply the air needed, but thats why theres AC inverters and transformers by the way, "it can push air but it cant pressurize a chamber." i would like you to read that again to yourself. if you cut a hole in a box, put a room fan in the hole and turn it on, tada a pressurized chamber, although wouldnt be that much over atmosperic with a low power room fan. guys this is very practical, it just needs to be done correctly.

also, if i do get the chance to build this as a senior project, i would most likely use the compressor housing off of a turbo.

im not saying electric isnt possible but no 12v fan contraption like this can possibly do anything.
ive seen REAL electric supercharges man. they have them already...... they cost close to 1k and you can only run them for 15 seconds. due to the motors heating up and not having enough current to power them.
and yes they use a compressor. like a pro charger setup just where the pully is they mount a high power motor.

heres the link of a real one http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight/

oh i agree with you that the eturbo on that 5g isnt doing much, if anything at all. and i remembr seeing that electric supercharger before, i dont know if a link to thomas knights page is in the article so electric supercharger. this setup is essentially the same thing im talking about except that it is not continuous. he calculated 450cfm at 8psi requires about 18-22hp. ill guestimate a 4-5 hp should be ok providing 3-5 psi on a 1.8engine whose cfm is around 191 cfm at 6000rpm. keep in mind it would provide a higher sustained boost at lower rpms until the compressor could no longer flow that much air.

This post has been edited by celicaST: Feb 9, 2006 - 5:14 PM