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post Feb 9, 2006 - 12:22 AM
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post Feb 9, 2006 - 4:41 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 9, 2006 - 4:28 PM) [snapback]391385[/snapback]

im amazed there is even a debate about these things..lol

Me too, but probably for different reasons.

CelicaST, you who I'm talking about when I say, "if the right person decided to make a e-turbo." Have you considered running a separate alternator hooked to its own battery to supply power? If you could get a belt system working with the turning of the fan, you could run multiple electric motors on it. This would probably be more complicated than making a supercharger, but it would prove a point. Any time you have innovations there are always very reputable skeptics. Skeptics are very important to the advancement of science. They make it so we have to prove everything thoroughly. I deal with them on a daily basis. After dealing with them for so long, it's almost irritating to see the things people say with no proof. People can say and believe anything they want, but the only thing that real is things that are proven. Weather its skeptics or researcher. If the skeptics say this is wrong, I challenge them experiment and prove it is false. If nothing else, provide scientific evidence to back up your theory. The science to this is simple. How much air can an electronically driven fan push? If it's more than a car can take in, it will pressurize. The practicality is the only thing in question in my mind. That is what you are for CelicaST. Please prove this one way or the other.


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post Feb 9, 2006 - 4:55 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 2:41 PM) [snapback]391393[/snapback]

QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 9, 2006 - 4:28 PM) [snapback]391385[/snapback]

im amazed there is even a debate about these things..lol

Me too, but probably for different reasons.

CelicaST, you who I'm talking about when I say, "if the right person decided to make a e-turbo." Have you considered running a separate alternator hooked to its own battery to supply power? If you could get a belt system working with the turning of the fan, you could run multiple electric motors on it. This would probably be more complicated than making a supercharger, but it would prove a point. Any time you have innovations there are always very reputable skeptics. Skeptics are very important to the advancement of science. They make it so we have to prove everything thoroughly. I deal with them on a daily basis. After dealing with them for so long, it's almost irritating to see the things people say with no proof. People can say and believe anything they want, but the only thing that real is things that are proven. Weather its skeptics or researcher. If the skeptics say this is wrong, I challenge them experiment and prove it is false. If nothing else, provide scientific evidence to back up your theory. The science to this is simple. How much air can an electronically driven fan push? If it's more than a car can take in, it will pressurize. The practicality is the only thing in question in my mind. That is what you are for CelicaST. Please prove this one way or the other.


well thank you. "Have you considered running a separate alternator hooked to its own battery to supply power? If you could get a belt system working with the turning of the fan, you could run multiple electric motors on it." sorry i dont understand the benefit or what you mean by either of those two ideas tongue.gif and both sound to complicated to the point where it would be more difficult to install than a typical setup. main benefit of such a electronic setup would be installation ease. well when im a senior i hope to, but first i would have to get this project approved by the ME department. sounds like they would since it involves thermodynamics, electronics, fluid dynamics, and pretty much anything else i could think of.

oh and this statement "How much air can an electronically driven fan push? If it's more than a car can take in, it will pressurize." is true, however, it will only produce a pressure gradient that the motor can sustain, aka high pressure gradient=high power. a tiny weak motor might pump a lot of air say in open air but once the outlet pressure rises in relation to the inlet pressure, it becomes harder for that motor to pump air in. IN CONCLUSION, dont buy an eturbo! they are scams and a complete waste of money.

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- x_itchy_b_x   Talk about cheaply turbo-ing a 5sfe   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:22 AM
- - lagos   thats not the amazing e-turbo in action, is it ?   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:29 AM
- - Blakout16   ur all wrong, its a leaf blower.   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:30 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   What the hell is that supposed to be??   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:33 AM
- - 94gts   And all this time I've been using it to dry my...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:37 AM
- - rjbibeau   i saw that car on ebay. i almost lmao. if you look...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:42 AM
|- - Smokeeey420   QUOTE(rjbibeau @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12:42...   Feb 16, 2006 - 10:11 PM
- - My2Celi   i need to learn. whats bad about it? do u gain any...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:44 AM
- - Clyde   lol so whats the point of the thing?   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:45 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(My2Celi @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12:44 ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:51 AM
- - SiN_CeLi   Now all they need is the TORNADO and I say that c...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:44 AM
- - Blakout16   doesnt the tornado atomize the air easier or somet...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:47 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Blakout16 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1:47...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:47 AM
- - Blakout16   so ur saying the tornado or eturbo cant help me ge...   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:02 AM
- - 95CelicaST   It won't help me pick up the ladies?   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:18 AM
- - OOBE   Hahaha you clowns.   Feb 9, 2006 - 7:41 AM
- - FSX_Celica94GT   i cant beat them vettes?   Feb 9, 2006 - 7:43 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Blakout16 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 3:02...   Feb 9, 2006 - 9:38 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 7...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:17 PM
- - snapshotgt   this post will end up being locked in a few days ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:33 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1:3...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:59 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 11:59...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:06 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Nice right up CelicaST. With adtvances in electro...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:05 PM
|- - x_itchy_b_x   im going to say it impossible to even get ANY 12v ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:19 PM
||- - celicaST   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:34 PM
||- - jgreening   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1:34 ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:57 PM
||- - celicaST   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12:5...   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:10 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:23 PM
- - jgreening   I take it the energy used to drive that fan is an ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:16 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 9, 2006 - 4:34 ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:17 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:19 PM
- - lagos   im amazed there is even a debate about these thing...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:28 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 9, 2006 - 2:28 PM)...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:41 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 9, 2006 - 4:28 PM)...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:41 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 2...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:55 PM
- - FAQdaWorld   This shouldnt even be debated on any level.... Ye...   Feb 10, 2006 - 3:06 PM
- - creis   ok, i'm gana say this only one because i know ...   Feb 10, 2006 - 3:22 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 10, 2006 - 2:22 PM...   Feb 10, 2006 - 4:48 PM
- - WannabeGT4   Come on Jay. You know the butt dyno totally pwns t...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:01 PM
- - lagos   if it really did add 10-15hp, you would have kept ...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:01 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   creis, I knew your post would look bad. You claim...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:41 PM
- - celicaST   ok ive thought about this, and i actually think th...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:53 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 10, 2006 - 4:53...   Feb 10, 2006 - 6:09 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 10, 2006 - 4:0...   Feb 10, 2006 - 6:28 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   With the elimiation of the vacum, couldn't thi...   Feb 10, 2006 - 6:58 PM
- - celicaST   ok well i just google eturbo+dyno, some finds: ...   Feb 10, 2006 - 7:10 PM
- - madmods   I have one laying around that I will donate if any...   Feb 10, 2006 - 10:46 PM
|- - celicaST   heres the dyno of it that the magazine did. on a 9...   Feb 11, 2006 - 1:18 AM
- - creis   I know my statement sounded kinda bad, "never...   Feb 12, 2006 - 9:41 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8:41 PM...   Feb 12, 2006 - 9:48 PM
||- - celicaST   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 12, 2006 - 7:4...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:16 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 7:41 PM...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:11 PM
- - creis   well the anser is no it was not tested other then ...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:15 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8:15 PM...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:27 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Wouldn't it be hard to run 10psi due to the en...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:22 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 12, 2006 - ...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:38 PM
- - creis   ^ I'v read that, I was not impressed, the thin...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:23 PM
- - snapshotgt   If it is possible to hook up some kind of boost ga...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:39 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:42 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:3...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:42 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 12, 2006 - ...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:47 PM
|- - BBoYRuGGeD   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 13, 2006 - 3:47...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:44 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:53 AM
|- - CelicaSTX02   QUOTE when you compress a gas quickly without let...   Feb 13, 2006 - 5:27 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(CelicaSTX02 @ Feb 13, 2006 - 3...   Feb 13, 2006 - 5:51 PM
- - snapshotgt   okay, i know now how to hook up a boost gauge...if...   Feb 12, 2006 - 11:15 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 9...   Feb 12, 2006 - 11:24 PM
- - 95celgt   well i can do 2 dyno runs for $30 so if anybo...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:07 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(95celgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:07...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:23 AM
- - 95celgt   haha, well, ill basically be doing it for fun, so ...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:32 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(95celgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:32...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:35 AM
|- - 95celgt   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 12, 2006 - 11:3...   Feb 13, 2006 - 1:04 AM
- - BBoYRuGGeD   aaahhhh...well in any case good luck n hope u make...   Feb 13, 2006 - 2:34 AM
- - lilsteeg   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 12, 2006 - 11:2...   Feb 13, 2006 - 8:02 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Feb 13, 2006 - 6:02...   Feb 14, 2006 - 12:28 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Feb 13, 2006 - 8:02...   Feb 14, 2006 - 12:07 AM
- - lagos   i havent been keeping up on this thread....and jus...   Feb 16, 2006 - 10:31 PM


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