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post Feb 9, 2006 - 12:22 AM
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at least its a 5th gen owner.


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post Feb 12, 2006 - 9:41 PM
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I know my statement sounded kinda bad, "never got around to it" kinda thing but its true I do stand behind it pushing 10-15 (probably more tward 10, but I cant back that up, its just what i felt it push. The only dyno I know of thats worth going to is 40 miles south, and I had no free time for that.

basicly all the thing was, is a fan, powered by a elecctric RC motor, now for thoes that dont know, RC motors can run Extreamly fast with minimal current.

in reality all a reg turbo is, is a fan pushing air into the motor, the fact that its powerd by the exhaust or a batt really makes no diff (with the exception that a reg turbo spools up and then helps pull the exhaust as well.) thinking about it, the idea of an electronic turbo could (maybe) be better in that if you can push enough air with the fan to create boost you would have far more control over your motors HP output because you can easaly change how much boost you want and when, with a very simple system.

Side note: I'm not saying some cheap turbo would ever be as good as a reg turbo, but just dont think it can do nothing for your motor.


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post Feb 12, 2006 - 9:48 PM
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QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8:41 PM) [snapback]392797[/snapback]

I know my statement sounded kinda bad, "never got around to it" kinda thing but its true I do stand behind it pushing 10-15 (probably more tward 10, but I cant back that up, its just what i felt it push. The only dyno I know of thats worth going to is 40 miles south, and I had no free time for that.

basicly all the thing was, is a fan, powered by a elecctric RC motor, now for thoes that dont know, RC motors can run Extreamly fast with minimal current.

in reality all a reg turbo is, is a fan pushing air into the motor, the fact that its powerd by the exhaust or a batt really makes no diff (with the exception that a reg turbo spools up and then helps pull the exhaust as well.) thinking about it, the idea of an electronic turbo could (maybe) be better in that if you can push enough air with the fan to create boost you would have far more control over your motors HP output because you can easaly change how much boost you want and when, with a very simple system.

Side note: I'm not saying some cheap turbo would ever be as good as a reg turbo, but just dont think it can do nothing for your motor.


For the record, my question about whether you measured in some way was not discounting what you felt. Altough you never had it on a dyno, I was wondering if you estimated these gains some other way (like a simple boost guage, for example). I have a hard time believing these devices could even result in positive boost of 1psi.

Also, is that dyno graph from the vendor or someone who bought one and tested it? It makes a difference.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 12, 2006 - 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 12, 2006 - 7:48 PM) [snapback]392800[/snapback]

QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8:41 PM) [snapback]392797[/snapback]

I know my statement sounded kinda bad, "never got around to it" kinda thing but its true I do stand behind it pushing 10-15 (probably more tward 10, but I cant back that up, its just what i felt it push. The only dyno I know of thats worth going to is 40 miles south, and I had no free time for that.

basicly all the thing was, is a fan, powered by a elecctric RC motor, now for thoes that dont know, RC motors can run Extreamly fast with minimal current.

in reality all a reg turbo is, is a fan pushing air into the motor, the fact that its powerd by the exhaust or a batt really makes no diff (with the exception that a reg turbo spools up and then helps pull the exhaust as well.) thinking about it, the idea of an electronic turbo could (maybe) be better in that if you can push enough air with the fan to create boost you would have far more control over your motors HP output because you can easaly change how much boost you want and when, with a very simple system.

Side note: I'm not saying some cheap turbo would ever be as good as a reg turbo, but just dont think it can do nothing for your motor.


For the record, my question about whether you measured in some way was not discounting what you felt. Altough you never had it on a dyno, I was wondering if you estimated these gains some other way (like a simple boost guage, for example). I have a hard time believing these devices could even result in positive boost of 1psi.

Also, is that dyno graph from the vendor or someone who bought one and tested it? It makes a difference.


did you read the magazine review? S3 mag review of e-ram

i just dont understand why some of you are so in disbelief that this is possible and actually has a lot of promise. the e-ram is a 833 watt (a little over 1hp) motor forcing air into your intake. this isnt going to provide extraordinary gains, but it will provide gains nonetheless.

This post has been edited by celicaST: Feb 12, 2006 - 10:17 PM


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- x_itchy_b_x   Talk about cheaply turbo-ing a 5sfe   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:22 AM
- - lagos   thats not the amazing e-turbo in action, is it ?   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:29 AM
- - Blakout16   ur all wrong, its a leaf blower.   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:30 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   What the hell is that supposed to be??   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:33 AM
- - 94gts   And all this time I've been using it to dry my...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:37 AM
- - rjbibeau   i saw that car on ebay. i almost lmao. if you look...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:42 AM
|- - Smokeeey420   QUOTE(rjbibeau @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12:42...   Feb 16, 2006 - 10:11 PM
- - My2Celi   i need to learn. whats bad about it? do u gain any...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:44 AM
- - Clyde   lol so whats the point of the thing?   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:45 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(My2Celi @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12:44 ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:51 AM
- - SiN_CeLi   Now all they need is the TORNADO and I say that c...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:44 AM
- - Blakout16   doesnt the tornado atomize the air easier or somet...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:47 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Blakout16 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1:47...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:47 AM
- - Blakout16   so ur saying the tornado or eturbo cant help me ge...   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:02 AM
- - 95CelicaST   It won't help me pick up the ladies?   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:18 AM
- - OOBE   Hahaha you clowns.   Feb 9, 2006 - 7:41 AM
- - FSX_Celica94GT   i cant beat them vettes?   Feb 9, 2006 - 7:43 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Blakout16 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 3:02...   Feb 9, 2006 - 9:38 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 7...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:17 PM
- - snapshotgt   this post will end up being locked in a few days ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:33 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1:3...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:59 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 11:59...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:06 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Nice right up CelicaST. With adtvances in electro...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:05 PM
|- - x_itchy_b_x   im going to say it impossible to even get ANY 12v ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:19 PM
||- - celicaST   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:34 PM
||- - jgreening   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1:34 ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:57 PM
||- - celicaST   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12:5...   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:10 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:23 PM
- - jgreening   I take it the energy used to drive that fan is an ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:16 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 9, 2006 - 4:34 ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:17 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:19 PM
- - lagos   im amazed there is even a debate about these thing...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:28 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 9, 2006 - 2:28 PM)...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:41 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 9, 2006 - 4:28 PM)...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:41 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 2...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:55 PM
- - FAQdaWorld   This shouldnt even be debated on any level.... Ye...   Feb 10, 2006 - 3:06 PM
- - creis   ok, i'm gana say this only one because i know ...   Feb 10, 2006 - 3:22 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 10, 2006 - 2:22 PM...   Feb 10, 2006 - 4:48 PM
- - WannabeGT4   Come on Jay. You know the butt dyno totally pwns t...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:01 PM
- - lagos   if it really did add 10-15hp, you would have kept ...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:01 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   creis, I knew your post would look bad. You claim...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:41 PM
- - celicaST   ok ive thought about this, and i actually think th...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:53 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 10, 2006 - 4:53...   Feb 10, 2006 - 6:09 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 10, 2006 - 4:0...   Feb 10, 2006 - 6:28 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   With the elimiation of the vacum, couldn't thi...   Feb 10, 2006 - 6:58 PM
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- - madmods   I have one laying around that I will donate if any...   Feb 10, 2006 - 10:46 PM
|- - celicaST   heres the dyno of it that the magazine did. on a 9...   Feb 11, 2006 - 1:18 AM
- - creis   I know my statement sounded kinda bad, "never...   Feb 12, 2006 - 9:41 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8:41 PM...   Feb 12, 2006 - 9:48 PM
||- - celicaST   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 12, 2006 - 7:4...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:16 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 7:41 PM...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:11 PM
- - creis   well the anser is no it was not tested other then ...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:15 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8:15 PM...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:27 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Wouldn't it be hard to run 10psi due to the en...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:22 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 12, 2006 - ...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:38 PM
- - creis   ^ I'v read that, I was not impressed, the thin...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:23 PM
- - snapshotgt   If it is possible to hook up some kind of boost ga...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:39 PM
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- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:3...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:42 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 12, 2006 - ...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:47 PM
|- - BBoYRuGGeD   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 13, 2006 - 3:47...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:44 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:53 AM
|- - CelicaSTX02   QUOTE when you compress a gas quickly without let...   Feb 13, 2006 - 5:27 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(CelicaSTX02 @ Feb 13, 2006 - 3...   Feb 13, 2006 - 5:51 PM
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|- - celicaST   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 9...   Feb 12, 2006 - 11:24 PM
- - 95celgt   well i can do 2 dyno runs for $30 so if anybo...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:07 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(95celgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:07...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:23 AM
- - 95celgt   haha, well, ill basically be doing it for fun, so ...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:32 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(95celgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:32...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:35 AM
|- - 95celgt   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 12, 2006 - 11:3...   Feb 13, 2006 - 1:04 AM
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