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post Feb 9, 2006 - 12:22 AM
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post Feb 12, 2006 - 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:38 PM) [snapback]392836[/snapback]

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Wouldn't it be hard to run 10psi due to the engine running bad when not boosting? The timing would be hard to figure I imagin.


confused.gif why would engine run bad while not boosting? i assumer youre talking about restriction of compressor blades. well if properly designed it should not provide a large restriction. however it will be more restrictive, and since we dont want a really slow car under normal driving, were planning on powering the motor continuosly from alternator(at a lower power) during normal driving (to provide around 0.5-1psi of boost). we thought of using a bypass valve, but thought the other idea to be much better and simpler. i dont get what your trying to say about timing.


No, I'm talking about how the car adjusts the the amount of air going through it. I just figured it would screw it up to have the on and off again high levels of boost. I think it's more than workable on low levels, but I don't know about high levels. It just seems like it would run weird. I don't know though.


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post Feb 12, 2006 - 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8:42 PM) [snapback]392843[/snapback]

QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:38 PM) [snapback]392836[/snapback]

QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8:22 PM) [snapback]392822[/snapback]

Wouldn't it be hard to run 10psi due to the engine running bad when not boosting? The timing would be hard to figure I imagin.


confused.gif why would engine run bad while not boosting? i assumer youre talking about restriction of compressor blades. well if properly designed it should not provide a large restriction. however it will be more restrictive, and since we dont want a really slow car under normal driving, were planning on powering the motor continuosly from alternator(at a lower power) during normal driving (to provide around 0.5-1psi of boost). we thought of using a bypass valve, but thought the other idea to be much better and simpler. i dont get what your trying to say about timing.


No, I'm talking about how the car adjusts the the amount of air going through it. I just figured it would screw it up to have the on and off again high levels of boost. I think it's more than workable on low levels, but I don't know about high levels. It just seems like it would run weird. I don't know though.


why would it screw it up? the engine management responds to incoming data in milliseconds. even conventional turbocharged cars arent always at high boost (or boost at all). i assume youve seen a boost gauge on a turbo car tongue.gif theyre not always at max boost. keep in mind, with our setup we likewise are going to need fuel system upgrades, fuel management, and a intercooler.


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- x_itchy_b_x   Talk about cheaply turbo-ing a 5sfe   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:22 AM
- - lagos   thats not the amazing e-turbo in action, is it ?   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:29 AM
- - Blakout16   ur all wrong, its a leaf blower.   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:30 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   What the hell is that supposed to be??   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:33 AM
- - 94gts   And all this time I've been using it to dry my...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:37 AM
- - rjbibeau   i saw that car on ebay. i almost lmao. if you look...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:42 AM
|- - Smokeeey420   QUOTE(rjbibeau @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12:42...   Feb 16, 2006 - 10:11 PM
- - My2Celi   i need to learn. whats bad about it? do u gain any...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:44 AM
- - Clyde   lol so whats the point of the thing?   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:45 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(My2Celi @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12:44 ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 12:51 AM
- - SiN_CeLi   Now all they need is the TORNADO and I say that c...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:44 AM
- - Blakout16   doesnt the tornado atomize the air easier or somet...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:47 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Blakout16 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1:47...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:47 AM
- - Blakout16   so ur saying the tornado or eturbo cant help me ge...   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:02 AM
- - 95CelicaST   It won't help me pick up the ladies?   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:18 AM
- - OOBE   Hahaha you clowns.   Feb 9, 2006 - 7:41 AM
- - FSX_Celica94GT   i cant beat them vettes?   Feb 9, 2006 - 7:43 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Blakout16 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 3:02...   Feb 9, 2006 - 9:38 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 7...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:17 PM
- - snapshotgt   this post will end up being locked in a few days ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:33 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1:3...   Feb 9, 2006 - 1:59 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 11:59...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:06 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Nice right up CelicaST. With adtvances in electro...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:05 PM
|- - x_itchy_b_x   im going to say it impossible to even get ANY 12v ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:19 PM
||- - celicaST   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:34 PM
||- - jgreening   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1:34 ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:57 PM
||- - celicaST   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 9, 2006 - 12:5...   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:10 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:23 PM
- - jgreening   I take it the energy used to drive that fan is an ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 2:16 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 9, 2006 - 4:34 ...   Feb 9, 2006 - 3:17 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Feb 9, 2006 - 1...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:19 PM
- - lagos   im amazed there is even a debate about these thing...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:28 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 9, 2006 - 2:28 PM)...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:41 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 9, 2006 - 4:28 PM)...   Feb 9, 2006 - 4:41 PM
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- - FAQdaWorld   This shouldnt even be debated on any level.... Ye...   Feb 10, 2006 - 3:06 PM
- - creis   ok, i'm gana say this only one because i know ...   Feb 10, 2006 - 3:22 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 10, 2006 - 2:22 PM...   Feb 10, 2006 - 4:48 PM
- - WannabeGT4   Come on Jay. You know the butt dyno totally pwns t...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:01 PM
- - lagos   if it really did add 10-15hp, you would have kept ...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:01 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   creis, I knew your post would look bad. You claim...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:41 PM
- - celicaST   ok ive thought about this, and i actually think th...   Feb 10, 2006 - 5:53 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 10, 2006 - 4:53...   Feb 10, 2006 - 6:09 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 10, 2006 - 4:0...   Feb 10, 2006 - 6:28 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   With the elimiation of the vacum, couldn't thi...   Feb 10, 2006 - 6:58 PM
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|- - celicaST   heres the dyno of it that the magazine did. on a 9...   Feb 11, 2006 - 1:18 AM
- - creis   I know my statement sounded kinda bad, "never...   Feb 12, 2006 - 9:41 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8:41 PM...   Feb 12, 2006 - 9:48 PM
||- - celicaST   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 12, 2006 - 7:4...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:16 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 7:41 PM...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:11 PM
- - creis   well the anser is no it was not tested other then ...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:15 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(creis @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8:15 PM...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:27 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   Wouldn't it be hard to run 10psi due to the en...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:22 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 12, 2006 - ...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:38 PM
- - creis   ^ I'v read that, I was not impressed, the thin...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:23 PM
- - snapshotgt   If it is possible to hook up some kind of boost ga...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:39 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 8...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:42 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:3...   Feb 12, 2006 - 10:42 PM
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|- - BBoYRuGGeD   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 13, 2006 - 3:47...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:44 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:53 AM
|- - CelicaSTX02   QUOTE when you compress a gas quickly without let...   Feb 13, 2006 - 5:27 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(CelicaSTX02 @ Feb 13, 2006 - 3...   Feb 13, 2006 - 5:51 PM
- - snapshotgt   okay, i know now how to hook up a boost gauge...if...   Feb 12, 2006 - 11:15 PM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 9...   Feb 12, 2006 - 11:24 PM
- - 95celgt   well i can do 2 dyno runs for $30 so if anybo...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:07 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(95celgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:07...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:23 AM
- - 95celgt   haha, well, ill basically be doing it for fun, so ...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:32 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(95celgt @ Feb 12, 2006 - 10:32...   Feb 13, 2006 - 12:35 AM
|- - 95celgt   QUOTE(celicaST @ Feb 12, 2006 - 11:3...   Feb 13, 2006 - 1:04 AM
- - BBoYRuGGeD   aaahhhh...well in any case good luck n hope u make...   Feb 13, 2006 - 2:34 AM
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- - lagos   i havent been keeping up on this thread....and jus...   Feb 16, 2006 - 10:31 PM


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