beams motor question, possible into a 6th gen..swap wise anyways Options

[Heytalktoryan]

i did a search and really couldnt find anything on thsi forum about the beams motor being swapped into the 6th generation celica.i have a 94 celica st and i want to do a beams swap..anywas i just wodnering what kind of car it was in...i mean what type of celica btw, bc i know the gt4 had the 3sgte and i figured the 3sge was also front wheel drive and in the motors on the regualr celicas in japan..anywas i just want some more information on the swap, any tips would help..thanks:)

[Supersprynt]

It was in the Celica SSIII

Sometimes people just plain old look in the wrong spot. On the homepage theres ALOT of info, this is some of said info:

JDM Engine Specifications

Celica 3S-GE with VVT-iIn Japan, the '94-98 Toyota Celica came with one of three engines. The SS-I came with the 3S-FE engine, the SS-II and SS-III came with the 3S-GE engine, and the GT-4 was powered by the 3S-GTE engine. In 1996, the 3S-FE engine was improved slightly to increase fuel economy and decrease vibrating noises. In 1997, Toyota introduced VVT-i to the 3S-GE engine for the 1998 Celica, which increased horsepower and torque substantially, and improved fuel economy. You can identify 3S-GE engines with VVT-i, because they have a red valve cover that says "Beams." The 3S-FE runs optimally on regular octane unleaded gasoline, but the more performance-oriented 3S-GE and 3S-GTE engines require premium octane unleaded gasoline.

Some people wonder if the 3S-GE engine will be the same as the 3S-GTE if you add a turbo to it. It will not be the same. The 3S-GE engine with VVT-i has a compression ratio of 11.0:1 and the 3S-GE without VVT-i has a compression ratio of 10.3:1, while the 3S-GTE engine has a compression ratio of 8.5:1. So to add a turbo to the 3S-GE, you would need to lower the compression through the use of internal engine parts. Below are the specifications for these engines.
Engine: 3S-FE 3S-GE 3S-GTE
Cylinders: 4 4 4
Displacement: 2.0 liters 2.0 liters 2.0 liters
Type: DOHC DOHC VVT-i1 DOHC
Horsepower: 138@6000 RPM 197@7000 RPM2 251@6000 RPM
Torque:(lbs.-ft.) 138@4400 RPM 152@6000 RPM3 225@4000 RPM
Forced Induction: None None Turbo

1 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE did not have VVT-i.
2 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE only produced 177 hp@7000 rpm.
3 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE only produced 142 lbs.-ft. of torque@4800 rpm.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Mar 1, 2006 - 11:21 PM

[Heytalktoryan]

It was in the Celica SSIII

Sometimes people just plain old look in the wrong spot. On the homepage theres ALOT of info, this is some of said info:

JDM Engine Specifications

Celica 3S-GE with VVT-iIn Japan, the '94-98 Toyota Celica came with one of three engines. The SS-I came with the 3S-FE engine, the SS-II and SS-III came with the 3S-GE engine, and the GT-4 was powered by the 3S-GTE engine. In 1996, the 3S-FE engine was improved slightly to increase fuel economy and decrease vibrating noises. In 1997, Toyota introduced VVT-i to the 3S-GE engine for the 1998 Celica, which increased horsepower and torque substantially, and improved fuel economy. You can identify 3S-GE engines with VVT-i, because they have a red valve cover that says "Beams." The 3S-FE runs optimally on regular octane unleaded gasoline, but the more performance-oriented 3S-GE and 3S-GTE engines require premium octane unleaded gasoline.

Some people wonder if the 3S-GE engine will be the same as the 3S-GTE if you add a turbo to it. It will not be the same. The 3S-GE engine with VVT-i has a compression ratio of 11.0:1 and the 3S-GE without VVT-i has a compression ratio of 10.3:1, while the 3S-GTE engine has a compression ratio of 8.5:1. So to add a turbo to the 3S-GE, you would need to lower the compression through the use of internal engine parts. Below are the specifications for these engines.
Engine: 3S-FE 3S-GE 3S-GTE
Cylinders: 4 4 4
Displacement: 2.0 liters 2.0 liters 2.0 liters
Type: DOHC DOHC VVT-i1 DOHC
Horsepower: 138@6000 RPM 197@7000 RPM2 251@6000 RPM
Torque:(lbs.-ft.) 138@4400 RPM 152@6000 RPM3 225@4000 RPM
Forced Induction: None None Turbo

1 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE did not have VVT-i.
2 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE only produced 177 hp@7000 rpm.
3 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE only produced 142 lbs.-ft. of torque@4800 rpm.

thnaks man , acrually thast what i had found and it didnt answer any of the ?'s that i had.basically i just wanted to know if it had a fwd tranny and how easy of a swap it was into my celica, im really interested in the swap just ebcause all i seem to see are ppl with 3sgte swaps