 3SGE Beams VS 4AGE Blacktop 6SPD |
 Mar 1, 2006 - 9:00 PM
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I will be getting a redtop Beams 3SGE in my Celica around mid-May. But I'm curious as to which engine really is better. I mean, if the ST205 was the exact same engine except no turbo, how much HP would it put out approximately, compared to the already NA Beams. I think Beams puts out 200HP(please correct me, if wrong...)? Thanks. I guess maybe what I'm trying to figrue out is if you stuck some low-comp pistons in the Beams and some other minor mods and the same CT26 or CT20 turbo, would it have more horses and be more powerful than the factory ST205?
Also, I'm real stuck between the Beams and 4AGE blacktop 6 speed. What would you guys choose? and why? Price isn't an issue and both engines will be left stock, maybe minor mods(Intake, Headers, Exhaust)... Some advantages I see with the blacktop is that since my car is a coupe, I already have a tiny bit of weight advantage over a hatchback and the blacktop being a 1.6L will keep me at lower weight and it has 6speeds. --------------------  |
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Mar 4, 2006 - 3:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 25, '03 From Miami, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
i didnt think i had to get so specific. of course, id be putting low comp pistons and little mods here and there to make the turbo work. i wouldnt turbo a 11:1 compression motor... c'mon man.lol.
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Mar 13, 2006 - 2:25 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 20, '05 From Hermitage, Pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Mar 4, 2006 - 3:36 PM) [snapback]402620[/snapback] i didnt think i had to get so specific. of course, id be putting low comp pistons and little mods here and there to make the turbo work. i wouldnt turbo a 11:1 compression motor... c'mon man.lol. by lowering the compression then turbo charging it you just made a really expensive 3sgte with a pretty red top This post has been edited by BLACKcelicaGT: Mar 13, 2006 - 2:26 AM |
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JoKeRkId613 3SGE Beams VS 4AGE Blacktop 6SPD Mar 1, 2006 - 9:00 PM
OrbitalGT95 QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Mar 2, 2006 - 2... Mar 1, 2006 - 9:06 PM Kwanza26 There is NO competion between the two motors. C... Mar 1, 2006 - 9:12 PM j0e_p3t i'd go with the beams. its newer and faster (r... Mar 1, 2006 - 9:13 PM ummmx2 i thought you were gonna turbo? what happened? Mar 2, 2006 - 2:55 AM CelicaZR I would've to say beams.
They look beautiful i... Mar 2, 2006 - 5:56 AM NaKeD i would say 3sge beams
thats my dream engine, NA e... Mar 2, 2006 - 8:21 AM maikl my brother has a corolla 1998 with the black top 6... Mar 2, 2006 - 11:39 AM BBoYRuGGeD i say beams cuz they look prettier
and cuz its... Mar 2, 2006 - 10:21 PM 95celgt i love beams, but i'd go black top, its like 1... Mar 4, 2006 - 1:17 AM Alchemist_57 why isn't the 4age and other motors covered in... Mar 4, 2006 - 1:22 AM Hanyo i was sleepy when i read this. I thought your comp... Mar 4, 2006 - 2:24 AM Silver94CelicaOwner 4AGE is just as good a motor though. You can... Mar 4, 2006 - 4:30 AM Punch for the money the 3sge cost you can get a 3sgte fr... Mar 4, 2006 - 11:45 AM Jdog1385 you should really say in the pole if they're f... Mar 4, 2006 - 2:57 PM
JoKeRkId613 QUOTE(Jdog1385 @ Mar 4, 2006 - 12:57... Mar 4, 2006 - 3:11 PM Jdog1385 QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Mar 4, 2006 - 3... Mar 4, 2006 - 6:39 PM JoKeRkId613 QUOTE(OrbitalGT95 @ Mar 1, 2006 - 7... Mar 4, 2006 - 3:16 PM brianforster your not gonna wanna turbo the beams.. Mar 4, 2006 - 3:23 PM soulshadow A beam tottaly owns the 4age in the 1/4 mile.
C... Mar 10, 2006 - 5:57 AM delusionz I know I'm digging up an old thread here, but ... Oct 31, 2008 - 10:00 AM Kwanza26 QUOTE (delusionz @ Oct 31, 2008 - 3... Oct 31, 2008 - 1:38 PM parriehunter There is a BEAMS motor that they call the "si... Oct 31, 2008 - 5:44 PM delusionz Sorry Kwanza but step back a minute, I'm refer... Oct 31, 2008 - 6:04 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE (delusionz @ Nov 1, 2008 - 12... Oct 31, 2008 - 6:23 PM delusionz QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Nov 1, 2008 - 12:2... Oct 31, 2008 - 6:50 PM Rusty just throwing in my 2cents
QUOTE The "Grey To... Oct 31, 2008 - 11:17 PM Cuts_the_Pilot what about 2zz-ge, top motor, vvtl-i...lift is aws... Nov 1, 2008 - 12:42 AM Ryouxrs QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Nov 1, 2008 - 1... Apr 10, 2009 - 9:37 PM DEATH QUOTE (Ryouxrs @ Apr 10, 2009 - 9:37... Apr 11, 2009 - 9:53 AM Rusty oh yea I love the lift on that,imagine increasing... Nov 1, 2008 - 2:35 AM delusionz Just had crazy ideas about higher peak torque leve... Nov 1, 2008 - 1:22 PM WH95TE Jason, where are you? lol Nov 2, 2008 - 6:30 PM JoKeRkId613 QUOTE (WH95TE @ Nov 2, 2008 - 7:30 P... Nov 3, 2008 - 4:22 PM Shigexile i would choose the 3sge because my car is a gt and... Nov 20, 2008 - 1:48 PM soulshadow If money was not an issue, I'd find a way to m... Nov 24, 2008 - 1:11 AM mr220v Ok, since I own both motors, I have to say the bea... Feb 4, 2009 - 4:04 PM Junior I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but a beams m... Feb 4, 2009 - 8:55 PM silver6gc QUOTE Junior Posted Today, 08:55 PM
I hate to b... Feb 4, 2009 - 11:58 PM Junior QUOTE (silver6gc @ Feb 4, 2009 - 9:5... Feb 6, 2009 - 7:30 PM delusionz QUOTE (Junior @ Feb 7, 2009 - 1:30 P... Feb 6, 2009 - 10:07 PM Rusty just want to add my 2c's in here
MIVEC (Mitsu... Feb 6, 2009 - 10:25 PM Ronan Ive had both the 20v blacktop in my Levin and the ... Feb 7, 2009 - 6:41 AM Rusty QUOTE The Beams is a better base for building powe... Feb 8, 2009 - 12:12 AM BonzaiCelica So some of you guys were saying that 4age blacktop... Apr 9, 2009 - 12:36 AM Dr_Tweak QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Apr 9, 2009 - 1... Apr 11, 2009 - 10:27 AM Ryouxrs QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Apr 11, 2009 - 10... Apr 11, 2009 - 10:49 AM Rusty I've heard that Japan does have very high octa... Apr 9, 2009 - 1:53 AM BonzaiCelica hmm ok wow thats pretty high. in california the hi... Apr 9, 2009 - 2:26 AM azian_advanced you don't need 100 octane or whatever japan of... Apr 9, 2009 - 7:48 AM DEATH QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Apr 9, 2009 - 7... Apr 9, 2009 - 9:34 AM BonzaiCelica hmm i believe i understand how it works. looked it... Apr 9, 2009 - 3:00 PM DEATH QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Apr 9, 2009 - 3... Apr 10, 2009 - 10:31 PM Rusty and to add to my previous comment all our fuel is ... Apr 9, 2009 - 4:34 PM BonzaiCelica alright thx for the reply tweak. But being that it... Apr 11, 2009 - 5:04 PM BonzaiCelica wow another video of toyota failing with the 2zz-g... Sep 27, 2010 - 9:50 PM |
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