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post Mar 10, 2006 - 3:41 AM
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now we all know that 3" is pretty standard for all our swappers.

what did you do for exhaust? custom from a shop close to you? make it on your own?

whatd the shop quote you?

how much was it if you did it yourself?

looking for general price quotes here, trying to plan out the finishing touches of the swap and the only exhaust shop i called said "theyd have to look at the car".

to cut down on costs i think im going to buy my own cat and muffler from summit (43 bucks for cat, 18 bucks for muffler, summit turbo muflers for the win!) i just wanna know if you guys have any idea what it will cost. i already have a downpipe.

i tried searching, but everyone just says they have 3" exhaust, not where or how they aquired it, and since they are all custom, was wondering what everyone did for it!

thanks as always
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post Mar 12, 2006 - 4:10 PM
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about the 4" exhaust

one of the big supra shops, either titan or horsepower freaks (i think it's titan actually) sells a 4" supra catback ...

if u go to their webpage they'll provide their '1st hand' commentary on why/when you'd need it...

i think to4r also had a dyno run of most supra exhausts starting with the oldschool greddy SP and working up to the newer titanium/stainluss catbacks (so from 2.38" up to some 3" and maybe slightly over 3" catbacks) with dyno data for all of it...

as far as titan goes they saw something like a 40hp gain pulling off a 'high flow' air filter on a 600 hp car... their exhaust (4") was worth over 120hp or so on some 700+ hp car that came in with a 3" if i remember correctly...

i just want to say this though...exhaust has to do with area which is related to diameter squared

2^2 = 4
2.25^2=5.0625
2.5^2=6.25
3^2=9
3.5^2=12.25
4^2=16

so the next step up if u had a high hp 3sgte isn't a 4" yet...


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post Mar 13, 2006 - 4:30 PM
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QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Mar 12, 2006 - 1:10 PM) [snapback]406573[/snapback]


i just want to say this though...exhaust has to do with area which is related to diameter squared

2^2 = 4
2.25^2=5.0625
2.5^2=6.25
3^2=9
3.5^2=12.25
4^2=16



That would be if you are running a rectangular shaped exhaust. smile.gif For area calculations it would be diameter * Pi (3.14159...) or volume=area * legnth of exhaust.
post Mar 13, 2006 - 5:16 PM
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QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Mar 13, 2006 - 3:30 PM) [snapback]407025[/snapback]

QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Mar 12, 2006 - 1:10 PM) [snapback]406573[/snapback]


i just want to say this though...exhaust has to do with area which is related to diameter squared

2^2 = 4
2.25^2=5.0625
2.5^2=6.25
3^2=9
3.5^2=12.25
4^2=16



That would be if you are running a rectangular shaped exhaust. smile.gif For area calculations it would be diameter * Pi (3.14159...) or volume=area * legnth of exhaust.


Actually, that would be a square (not a rectangular) shaped exhaust. Diameter * pi would be the circumfrance. To determine area of the exhaust, you use radius squared * pi. Therefore, the following would be the correct calculations to determine area of the cross section of the pipe:

2 inch piping = 3.14 sq. inches of area of cross section of pipe
2.25 = 3.97
2.5 = 4.91
3 = 7.07
3.5 = 9.62
4.0 = 12.56

EDIT: Nuke beat me.

This post has been edited by jgreening: Mar 13, 2006 - 5:18 PM


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Mar 16, 2006 - 2:43 AM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 13, 2006 - 2:16 PM) [snapback]407053[/snapback]

QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Mar 13, 2006 - 3:30 PM) [snapback]407025[/snapback]

QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Mar 12, 2006 - 1:10 PM) [snapback]406573[/snapback]


i just want to say this though...exhaust has to do with area which is related to diameter squared

2^2 = 4
2.25^2=5.0625
2.5^2=6.25
3^2=9
3.5^2=12.25
4^2=16



That would be if you are running a rectangular shaped exhaust. smile.gif For area calculations it would be diameter * Pi (3.14159...) or volume=area * legnth of exhaust.


Actually, that would be a square (not a rectangular) shaped exhaust. Diameter * pi would be the circumfrance. To determine area of the exhaust, you use radius squared * pi. Therefore, the following would be the correct calculations to determine area of the cross section of the pipe:

2 inch piping = 3.14 sq. inches of area of cross section of pipe
2.25 = 3.97
2.5 = 4.91
3 = 7.07
3.5 = 9.62
4.0 = 12.56

EDIT: Nuke beat me.


Whopse. yeah a=piR^2, and i meant rectangular as in rectangular prism.

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- brianforster   swappers, what did you do for exhaust?   Mar 10, 2006 - 3:41 AM
- - CheesyLobster   im pretty sure that 3 inch is too big... most swap...   Mar 10, 2006 - 7:30 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Mar 10, 2006 - 7...   Mar 10, 2006 - 8:18 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   i have 2.5 downpipe back. made at a local shop for...   Mar 10, 2006 - 8:40 AM
- - defgeph   3 inch turbo back made by DG performance.   Mar 10, 2006 - 10:18 AM
- - Supersprynt   Buying ToyCeli8's 3'' turbo back mandr...   Mar 10, 2006 - 10:55 AM
- - jgreening   3" turbo back SS exhaust with two SS magnaflo...   Mar 10, 2006 - 11:08 AM
- - Rjb23   I have a 3" DP back SS custome exhaust made b...   Mar 10, 2006 - 11:53 AM
- - OrbitalGT95   DG Performance is your man for exhausts   Mar 10, 2006 - 12:01 PM
- - lagos   welll... this whole time i have been rocking the g...   Mar 10, 2006 - 12:29 PM
- - brianforster   DG's exhaust looks great but I just dont think...   Mar 10, 2006 - 12:34 PM
- - lagos   dont cheap out on the muffler. its really hard to...   Mar 10, 2006 - 1:02 PM
- - eggman40   For my exhaust i got a 3in. downpipe then had a cu...   Mar 10, 2006 - 4:28 PM
- - Drocay   not on my celi since its sold, but on my project c...   Mar 10, 2006 - 5:03 PM
- - burneeed   3" Turbo back exhaust. 3" Is the best w...   Mar 10, 2006 - 7:32 PM
- - brianforster   QUOTE(lagos @ Mar 10, 2006 - 6:02 PM...   Mar 10, 2006 - 8:56 PM
- - DG_Performance   If i can get better deals on the products i need t...   Mar 11, 2006 - 2:32 PM
- - brianforster   QUOTE(DG_Performance @ Mar 11, 2006 - 7...   Mar 11, 2006 - 2:34 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   What would be the disadvantange to running somethi...   Mar 11, 2006 - 4:47 PM
- - playr158   LOL 4" thats utterly pointless....   Mar 11, 2006 - 7:18 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(playr158 @ Mar 11, 2006 - 7:18...   Mar 12, 2006 - 8:21 AM
- - Fastbird   Dr. Tweak is hooking us up with a 3" downpipe...   Mar 11, 2006 - 8:37 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(playr158 @ Mar 11, 2006 - 7:18...   Mar 11, 2006 - 9:18 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 11, 2006 - ...   Mar 12, 2006 - 1:52 AM
- - scothaniel   Yeah, dont use 2.5" piping - thats like only ...   Mar 11, 2006 - 9:36 PM
- - lagos   4inch exhaust are only a benefit on 6-8cyl turboca...   Mar 11, 2006 - 10:12 PM
- - playr158   i run my turbo with an pretty much open downpipe (...   Mar 11, 2006 - 11:31 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(playr158 @ Mar 11, 2006 - 10:3...   Mar 12, 2006 - 2:11 AM
- - Kadett   3" piping with the stock st205 muffler for no...   Mar 12, 2006 - 2:00 AM
- - Patrissimo   I did a 3 inch straight back from Down Pipe. No Ca...   Mar 12, 2006 - 3:21 AM
- - lagos   3in is plenty for 90% of 4cyl turbo cars that are ...   Mar 12, 2006 - 12:11 PM
- - Supersprynt   Doubt alot of ppl heard of no shoes 'round her...   Mar 12, 2006 - 1:31 PM
- - scothaniel   QUOTEQUOTE anything over 3" diameter on a 4cy...   Mar 12, 2006 - 2:03 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(scothaniel @ Mar 12, 2006 - 1...   Mar 12, 2006 - 2:47 PM
- - scothaniel   The addition of the turbo doesn't effect the b...   Mar 12, 2006 - 3:41 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(scothaniel @ Mar 12, 2006 - 2...   Mar 12, 2006 - 4:39 PM
- - playr158   QUOTEOversizing the exhuast can hurt due to the de...   Mar 12, 2006 - 4:03 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(playr158 @ Mar 12, 2006 - 3:03...   Mar 12, 2006 - 4:29 PM
- - NuclearHappineS   about the 4" exhaust one of the big supra sh...   Mar 12, 2006 - 4:10 PM
|- - CheesyLobster   QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Mar 12, 2006 - 1...   Mar 13, 2006 - 4:30 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Mar 13, 2006 - 3...   Mar 13, 2006 - 5:16 PM
|- - CheesyLobster   QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 13, 2006 - 2:1...   Mar 16, 2006 - 2:43 AM
- - playr158   alright thats a inline 6 supra.....not a 4cyl celi...   Mar 12, 2006 - 4:23 PM
- - playr158   we've already established shorter is better? t...   Mar 12, 2006 - 4:58 PM
- - scothaniel   Interesting post by Dave Buschar on the evo forums...   Mar 12, 2006 - 7:00 PM
- - jgreening   Out of curiosity Scott, what lessons do you take f...   Mar 12, 2006 - 9:15 PM
- - scothaniel   That 3" exhaust is better then 2.5" I w...   Mar 12, 2006 - 9:30 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(scothaniel @ Mar 12, 2006 - 8...   Mar 12, 2006 - 10:09 PM
- - scothaniel   Its a turbo that pushes over 500 CFM at 20 psi tho...   Mar 12, 2006 - 10:49 PM
- - NuclearHappineS   QUOTE That would be if you are running a rectangul...   Mar 13, 2006 - 5:06 PM
- - Speedy2k   Heh I see some people have forgot high school math...   Mar 14, 2006 - 3:24 AM
- - playr158   we need to work on pipe size before we get to the ...   Mar 14, 2006 - 9:38 AM
- - lagos   i like my math better 3sgte + 3in exhaust = the r...   Mar 14, 2006 - 10:14 AM
- - Speedy2k   QUOTE(lagos @ Mar 14, 2006 - 10:14 A...   Mar 14, 2006 - 2:30 PM
- - celicurr   RE: swappers, what did you do for exhaust?   Mar 14, 2006 - 2:40 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(celicurr @ Mar 14, 2006 - 1:40...   Mar 14, 2006 - 3:15 PM
- - playr158   thats my scan! (and it came from "maximu...   Mar 14, 2006 - 2:59 PM
- - JFrost9   This is going to seem completly random and all, bu...   Mar 14, 2006 - 3:40 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Speedy2k @ Mar 14, 2006 - 2:30...   Mar 14, 2006 - 4:26 PM
- - Speedy2k   How much was the quote? Mandrel bent? Stainless/...   Mar 14, 2006 - 10:04 PM
- - DG_Performance   What happened to the topic ... you know that sente...   Mar 15, 2006 - 2:00 PM


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