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post Mar 17, 2006 - 11:44 AM
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As some of you know I took the 3sgte set up from a working 6gc (originally manual) and swapped it into my 6g (automatic). When the wiring harness was made, it was intended for a manual and not for an automatic transmission. For those of you that have automatic transmissions and want to do a 3sgte + manual tranny swap, this is for you.

Original Thread: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?act=ST...t=0#entry407839

So after calling Dr. Tweak, he suggested the following:

"Near the ECU, there is the II2 connector, and on pin 18 of the car's connector side, you'll find a black wire with a yellow stripe. That wire needs to be connected to a black wire that comes from pin 2 of the starter relay, you can probably find this wire by looking under the relay box and/or using the ohm-meter. Once those two wires are connected, it should start. "

Here's what I did: tapped into the black/yellow wire (car side) and ran it to the ST relay in the fuse box. Instead of taking the fuse out, I tapped into the wire that is connected to pin 2 of the relay which was a black wire.

Now she lives... but 2 problems.

1. I don't have a mid/ flex pipe yet, so it's freaking loud... I'm talking setting off car alarms across the street loud.
2. As soon as the key hits the "ON" position, something is making a rather loud "ZzZZZZ" sound. I suspect the starter... maybe a relay or something isn't doing it's job.

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post Mar 17, 2006 - 11:59 AM
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Connecting the black and black/yellow wire together at the COR would have been much simpler than running a wire clear up to your starter relay and would have accomplished exactly the same thing:
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post Mar 17, 2006 - 6:18 PM
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QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Mar 17, 2006 - 4:59 PM) [snapback]409125[/snapback]

Connecting the black and black/yellow wire together at the COR would have been much simpler than running a wire clear up to your starter relay and would have accomplished exactly the same thing:
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That's assuming that the wiring was done like that, remember, this is a 3SGTE swapped harness, so it might be different depending on how it was done. The 3SGTE harness is not set up like that.

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post Mar 18, 2006 - 6:56 PM
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QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Mar 17, 2006 - 5:18 PM) [snapback]409330[/snapback]

QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Mar 17, 2006 - 4:59 PM) [snapback]409125[/snapback]

Connecting the black and black/yellow wire together at the COR would have been much simpler than running a wire clear up to your starter relay and would have accomplished exactly the same thing:
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That's assuming that the wiring was done like that, remember, this is a 3SGTE swapped harness, so it might be different depending on how it was done. The 3SGTE harness is not set up like that.

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Yeah, That was assuming the wiring was done the same way as RJB's. If for some reason the starter circuit was wired the same as the ST185's, connecting those two wires together will make the starter run constantly when the ignition is on.


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Posts in this topic
- Chanh55   3sgte Post Swap Starter Problem Solved   Mar 17, 2006 - 11:44 AM
- - lagos   are you going to ask to have this thread deleted t...   Mar 17, 2006 - 11:52 AM
|- - Chanh55   QUOTE(lagos @ Mar 17, 2006 - 8:52 AM...   Mar 17, 2006 - 11:56 AM
- - WannabeGT4   Connecting the black and black/yellow wire togethe...   Mar 17, 2006 - 11:59 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Mar 17, 2006 - 4...   Mar 17, 2006 - 6:18 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Mar 17, 2006 - 5:18...   Mar 18, 2006 - 6:56 PM
- - celicarus   thanks for the update - i'll be needing this i...   Mar 17, 2006 - 12:07 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE. I will get the exhaust done soon, for sure....   Mar 17, 2006 - 12:11 PM
- - GT4WRC   QUOTE(Chanh55 @ Mar 17, 2006 - 11:44...   Mar 17, 2006 - 6:21 PM
|- - Chanh55   Sweet the problem is completely fixed! Inste...   Mar 17, 2006 - 11:51 PM
- - lagos   congrads. its a great feeling when they finally fi...   Mar 17, 2006 - 11:59 PM
- - presure2   congrats man...daymn the 3s club is getting bigger...   Mar 18, 2006 - 9:28 AM
|- - BBoYRuGGeD   QUOTE(presure2 @ Mar 18, 2006 - 2:28...   Mar 19, 2006 - 3:37 PM
- - Akimbo   so jealous! Nice job man   Mar 18, 2006 - 3:09 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   More likely, it would blow the fuse... that circui...   Mar 18, 2006 - 9:10 PM
- - WannabeGT4   Yep, You're probably right.   Mar 18, 2006 - 9:17 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Chanh, I think you now have one of my favorite 6GC...   Mar 19, 2006 - 2:59 AM
|- - Chanh55   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Mar 18, 2006 ...   Mar 19, 2006 - 4:06 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   No problem.   Mar 19, 2006 - 4:10 AM
- - urbandork   weeeee im sooo happy cant wait to c her at the mee...   Mar 19, 2006 - 1:09 PM
- - CheesyLobster   CONGRATS MAN! I'll have to check it out so...   Mar 19, 2006 - 6:12 PM
- - crismillencolin   Wow you did the full swap that quick ! well d...   Mar 19, 2006 - 8:32 PM


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