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post Mar 17, 2006 - 9:33 PM
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This site has been going downhill. Some of you may have noticed
this...others are no longer here because of it. No-one knows this better
than myself. Little things turn into big arguments and many act as if
they're elite or just have bad attitudes in general. It's been this way
for too long, but enough is enough. It's going to stop.

Years ago, I knew nothing about my car. I bought it not even realizing
that there were seperate hatchback and coupe models. I started this site
with little knowledge myself, and as time went by, the site grew
quickly, as did my knowledge of the Celica. Fast forward to today, and I
drive one of the most unique and fun cars on the street. I've met dozens
of cool people and helped a lot of people out, and I've always had fun
doing it.

This site is a resource for the sixth generation Toyota Celica. Lately
though, it's felt more like a playground. People run around saying
whatever they want with little regard to others. Some people seem like
they're here to learn and contribute. Others may have just forgotten the
purpose of the site but can shape up and behave. Some seem like they're
just here to cause trouble. And then there are a few who have attitudes
as if they're elite.

Let me say this. No-one is better than anyone else here. You should
treat the guy who registered yesterday with with the same level of
respect that you show to me. Let me talk about respect for a minute. You
don't have to like everyone here, but you must treat everyone with
respect. There's no room for negative comments towards others or their
cars or an elitist attitude.

My main point with this letter is that the 6G Celicas community is
hurting. Smart, contributing members are being driven away by all the
garbage and negativity. As are brand new members, some with very little
knowledge like we ALL once had.

Some of you may remember the Celica.net days. Had I come to Celica.net
with my new car and no knowledge, posted a simple question, and received
a bombardment of disrespect and no answers, I would have left. I
wouldn't be here today. This site wouldn't be here today. But no, I was
greeted and treated with respect. People politely answered my questions
and pointed me in the direction of the search engine. I learned, and I
turned around and returned the favor by means of building this site to
help people out. My point is that everyone on here needs to be treated
with respect. You never know who might be the next pioneer.

The fact is that we're hurting ourselves. People are being driven away.
This may not be sad for some of you, but for those who love the sixth gen.
Celica and are here to learn and contribute, it's a tragedy.

It's time for a change, and change is coming. The choice is yours. If you're
here to learn and contribute and you want the community to live on, I'm
glad and I hope you enjoy it here. If you want to have a bad attitude and
cause problems, please leave now. If you think you're elite and are going
to post with that attitude that you're better than everyone else, please
leave now.

We need everyone's help to change and turn the site around. New rules
are now online. Everyone needs to follow them, or there will be consequences.

Management will be using the member warning system much more and we
won't hesitate to stop members who don't follow the rules from posting
without moderator approval.

This forum can be great. It's going to once again be great. We need all of your
help, and we need it now.

Thank You,
Christian Coomer


P.S.
  • Again, new rules are available here.
  • The feedback system for buyers/sellers will be online shortly.
  • On each post, you'll see a "Report This Post" link to the left under the author's details. If you find that a post is inappropriate, please use this link to report it.
  • 3-Letter searching isn't available on my current hosting setup(I asked and they said no.) I need a dedicated server, and that'll be probably $150-200 a month, so once the member subscriptions system is online, I should be able to fund that, move the site to a new dedicated server, and implement 3-letter searching.


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 7:59 PM
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Everyone needs to remember that we are basically Coomer's guests here. We have no automatic right to be a member of this Forum. Coomer does all the hard graft of keeping it running while we use it. If someone fails to abide by Coomer's rules, then they can't complain if they aren't allowed to join in.
I for one have also noticed a change in the short time I have been here. And what spoils it the most for me is the amount of references to illegal street racing. Okay, I'm in another country, but it still worries me that this type of stuff goes on. Okay, I'm not going to stop it, but while people tolerate it being posted about and contribute to the thread, then it is going to remain 'acceptable' to do. Give any moron an audience and they will perform.
Let's keep this as a proper forum where people can vcome to gain and share knowledge. Not as a place where people can hide behind a monitor and act like a 5 year old.
Gary


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Posts in this topic
- Coomer   My Letter to the 6G Celicas Community   Mar 17, 2006 - 9:33 PM
- - brianforster   I cant wait for 3 letter searching! What is th...   Mar 17, 2006 - 9:40 PM
- - JFrost9   i swore i wouldnt post in this, but i think these ...   Mar 17, 2006 - 9:59 PM
- - Jaws4God   well said coomer.. thats what I loved about this s...   Mar 17, 2006 - 10:04 PM
- - Mike   point well made   Mar 17, 2006 - 10:18 PM
- - My2Celi   I have so much respect for you coomer. i mean that...   Mar 17, 2006 - 10:21 PM
- - Kodak   Thanks Coomer!!! I'm a new member...   Mar 17, 2006 - 10:29 PM
- - 97lestyousay   I think most members want to help as much as they ...   Mar 17, 2006 - 10:32 PM
- - celica47   Thanks Coom....i knew that problem was coming to h...   Mar 17, 2006 - 10:35 PM
- - Jen   Thank you.   Mar 17, 2006 - 11:37 PM
- - CelicaZR   Ever since I've first visited this site, I...   Mar 17, 2006 - 11:55 PM
- - defgeph   Very well put Coomer. I'm very happy about th...   Mar 18, 2006 - 12:20 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   It breaks my heart when I see this post. I knew t...   Mar 18, 2006 - 12:23 AM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 18, 2006 - ...   Mar 18, 2006 - 12:34 AM
- - Fate   very well put and very necessary.   Mar 18, 2006 - 12:50 AM
- - hitcachi   Coomer.....I'm an addict. Hi, my name is Jim a...   Mar 18, 2006 - 12:50 AM
- - j0e_p3t   i love this place   Mar 18, 2006 - 1:53 AM
- - nader   well said coomer, this site and the people here ha...   Mar 18, 2006 - 2:03 AM
- - K-ESD   totaly agree with you   Mar 18, 2006 - 2:21 AM
- - Nibbe   I would say you have to put this onto the front pa...   Mar 18, 2006 - 2:41 AM
- - 95CelicaST   This place is bursting with knowledge about anythi...   Mar 18, 2006 - 2:54 AM
- - CelicaSTX02   I've been a member on this forum since the yea...   Mar 18, 2006 - 11:55 AM
- - dstrbcelica   very well said coomer. i don't even have my ce...   Mar 18, 2006 - 12:12 PM
- - Niskyspy   Well, I see that you are saying that the web is ge...   Mar 18, 2006 - 12:15 PM
- - crismillencolin   Well said coomer , shame you had to eventually say...   Mar 18, 2006 - 12:26 PM
- - 94gts   I'm like CelicaSTX02, I've been a member s...   Mar 18, 2006 - 12:53 PM
- - Supersprynt   RE: 4. Please refrain from posting pointless posts...   Mar 18, 2006 - 1:07 PM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Mar 18, 2006 - 1...   Mar 18, 2006 - 6:12 PM
|- - Celicaca   QUOTE(defgeph @ Mar 18, 2006 - 11:12...   Mar 18, 2006 - 9:06 PM
- - CelicaBuddy   I love this site I do see some negativity tho ar...   Mar 18, 2006 - 3:40 PM
- - orvillescelica   I too am a member that has been here since the sta...   Mar 18, 2006 - 8:09 PM
- - ILuvMyCelica95   you know Celicaca this is the kind of stuff Coomer...   Mar 18, 2006 - 9:30 PM
- - ThAixGuYx2k7   well said man ive deffinately learned A LOT off o...   Mar 18, 2006 - 9:32 PM
- - Aaagogo   just my 2 cents, none of my post has never been ...   Mar 18, 2006 - 9:36 PM
- - b1gr3d   i'm not the most knowledgablf of members but t...   Mar 18, 2006 - 11:17 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I've also been around this site since its very...   Mar 19, 2006 - 2:40 AM
- - maikl   so be cearfull about saying anything about my engl...   Mar 19, 2006 - 5:02 AM
|- - malpaso   QUOTE(maikl @ Mar 19, 2006 - 11:02 A...   Mar 21, 2006 - 8:52 AM
- - bojangles_8686   I have been a member of this site for a VERY long ...   Mar 19, 2006 - 8:02 AM
|- - crismillencolin   QUOTE(bojangles_8686 @ Mar 19, 2006 - 8...   Mar 19, 2006 - 8:49 AM
- - afroman   I didnt read all the replies but, i can understand...   Mar 19, 2006 - 10:36 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(afroman @ Mar 19, 2006 - 9:36 ...   Mar 19, 2006 - 9:06 PM
- - bigal004321   I think alot of it has to do with the fact that al...   Mar 19, 2006 - 10:40 AM
- - GT4WRC   Everyone needs to remember that we are basically C...   Mar 19, 2006 - 7:59 PM
- - Will_LT   I've been coming to site this since mid januar...   Mar 19, 2006 - 8:24 PM
- - trdproven   This letter really makes a lot of sense, especiall...   Mar 19, 2006 - 9:02 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 19, 2006 - 9:0...   Mar 19, 2006 - 9:11 PM
- - easternpiro1   i thought i was the only one that was noticing the...   Mar 20, 2006 - 1:15 PM
- - K-ESD   QUOTE(bigal004321 @ Mar 19, 2006 - 11...   Mar 20, 2006 - 2:51 PM
- - jgreening   snobby elite? I would like to know who these peop...   Mar 20, 2006 - 5:49 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 20, 2006 - 10...   Mar 20, 2006 - 6:04 PM
- - Coomer   OK, I posted this letter because I didn't want...   Mar 20, 2006 - 6:05 PM
- - afroman   edited due to coomers post -Aaron-   Mar 20, 2006 - 6:05 PM
- - lagos   all i have to say is WOW... the THOUGHT POLICE is ...   Mar 20, 2006 - 6:10 PM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(lagos @ Mar 20, 2006 - 3:10 PM...   Mar 20, 2006 - 6:12 PM
- - jgreening   My apologies. A Statement critisizing people that...   Mar 20, 2006 - 6:11 PM
|- - celicarus   QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 20, 2006 - 5:1...   Mar 20, 2006 - 6:43 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Coomer @ Mar 20, 2006 - 6:12 P...   Mar 20, 2006 - 6:14 PM
- - Coomer   This is a moderated website. Management moderates ...   Mar 20, 2006 - 6:19 PM
- - K-ESD   this is an example of what i've been told once...   Mar 20, 2006 - 7:34 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE(Celicaca @ Mar 18, 2006 - 9:06...   Mar 21, 2006 - 7:42 AM
- - syaoran60085   Well said. I do like this new ideas of yours. I do...   Mar 21, 2006 - 8:41 PM
- - ComaDave   I whole-heartedly agree with you Coomer. I've...   Mar 27, 2006 - 2:46 PM
- - sinner96ST   Probably a little late for this, I doubt any mods ...   Mar 29, 2006 - 4:32 PM
- - smerk   although ive only been a member since october/05, ...   Apr 3, 2006 - 1:15 AM
- - trdproven   yupp, I thought when I first got my celica, I was ...   Apr 3, 2006 - 1:40 AM


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