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post Mar 8, 2006 - 10:24 AM
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Just bought a '95 celica ST. Needs an oil change, is 5w/30 ok? Reason is I also have a 2002 camry that uses that, it would be nice to stock one oil for both cars..
 
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post Mar 8, 2006 - 1:17 PM
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Your right - kinda. The W isnt just for "winter" its just plainly the viscosity of the oil when its cold. The most wear in an engine come from start up, this is generally when theres no oil pressure and oil hasnt reached every where yet. so a thick oil will take longer to get everywhere while a thinner oil will reach vital parts quicker. Thats the first number in say 10w-30. 10 is the viscosity of the oil when its cold, 30 is when the cars warm. So 5w-30 is the same as 10w-30 when your engine is warmed up.

So theres pros and cons to using a thicker weight oil. 5w will get to your engine parts quicker while the 10w will take longer. And the 10w will add some cushion but take longer to get to the parts. And in the end when yoru cars warm they're both the same.

You'll be fine with a 10w-30. Semi or full synthetic is what i'd recommend for the age of your car.


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post Mar 9, 2006 - 1:32 AM
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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Mar 8, 2006 - 12:17 PM) [snapback]404614[/snapback]

The most wear in an engine come from start up, this is generally when theres no oil pressure and oil hasnt reached every where yet.



I heard this before . i was thinking ....

right after a rebuild your supposed to disable spark and just crank the car for a couple of seconds....

soo if you disable the spark from a switch in the car.. and crank for a couple of seconds then engage the "spark switch" then turn on the car.....will that help in the long run??
post Mar 20, 2006 - 9:10 PM
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QUOTE(southwest2118 @ Mar 9, 2006 - 1:32 AM) [snapback]404976[/snapback]

QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Mar 8, 2006 - 12:17 PM) [snapback]404614[/snapback]

The most wear in an engine come from start up, this is generally when theres no oil pressure and oil hasnt reached every where yet.



I heard this before . i was thinking ....

right after a rebuild your supposed to disable spark and just crank the car for a couple of seconds....

soo if you disable the spark from a switch in the car.. and crank for a couple of seconds then engage the "spark switch" then turn on the car.....will that help in the long run??

I though cranking a fresh rebuild was rough because the oil pressure was extremly low and the internal friction was very high. Since the oil pump is virtually empty and most friction points don't have the oil fed through the oil galley to the bearings and rings.

Opps I hit the wrong key and I think I sent out an incomplete post. kindasad.gif
I though cranking a fresh rebuild was rough because the oil pressure was extremely low and the internal friction was very high. Since the oil pump is virtually empty therfore most friction points don't have the oil fed through the oil galley to the bearings, rings and cylinder wall and pistions.
"Back in the old V-8 days "I used to leave the distributor off on my rebuilds and prelube the engine by using a a long slotted screwdriver attached to a drill to turn the oil pump with for a couple minutes. This would send oil through the empty oil passages to the vital friction points, bearing, rings, pistion, cylinderwalls, etc. You could watch the oil pressure gauge pump up to opertating pressure. All the air was forced out of the lubricating system and then the distributor was put in and the engine could be started without all the harmful dry post rebuild scuffing.
I understand that all the good oil filters have check ball/valves to keep the oil volume high for restarts.
The oil filter on the 5S-FE engine faces downward and doesn't allow for me to fill the filter full of oil prior to installing it.
I don't know if disabling the spark while cranking a "not freshly rebuilt" engine will give similar benefits to an engine that has not been just rebuilt, since the lubricating system already has purged the air and of oil in the vital places.

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This post has been edited by Yellow94GT: Mar 20, 2006 - 9:47 PM

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- mwpayne   5w or 10w/30?   Mar 8, 2006 - 10:24 AM
- - Elevindie   hmmmm....well the way oil is classified is by visc...   Mar 8, 2006 - 11:58 AM
- - Supersprynt   Your right - kinda. The W isnt just for "wint...   Mar 8, 2006 - 1:17 PM
|- - southwest2118   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Mar 8, 2006 - 12...   Mar 9, 2006 - 1:32 AM
|- - Yellow94GT   QUOTE(southwest2118 @ Mar 9, 2006 - 1...   Mar 20, 2006 - 9:10 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEthe "W" means winter lol, no... ...   Mar 8, 2006 - 2:20 PM
|- - Jdog1385   QUOTE(lagos @ Mar 8, 2006 - 2:20 PM)...   Mar 8, 2006 - 3:28 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I use 5w30 in winter and 10w30 in the summer. Car...   Mar 8, 2006 - 3:48 PM
|- - SlowCelica94   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Mar 8, 2006 - 8...   Mar 9, 2006 - 1:58 PM
- - mwpayne   That'ts the thing, the 2002 camry has 5w/30 wr...   Mar 8, 2006 - 6:55 PM
- - Hanyo   i've also heard thiner oils make you save gas....   Mar 8, 2006 - 10:31 PM
- - Supersprynt   Slightly just simply cuz the motor isnt working as...   Mar 8, 2006 - 11:18 PM
- - CelicaZR   I use 5w/30 in my car, only fully synthetic oil. C...   Mar 9, 2006 - 1:18 AM
- - Supersprynt   I dont think so because its the lack of lubricatio...   Mar 9, 2006 - 12:26 PM
- - soulshadow   I used 5W on mine and when I drained it, it came o...   Mar 9, 2006 - 12:44 PM
- - ILuvMyCelica95   hahah thats fabulous i have been doing this the wr...   Mar 9, 2006 - 1:01 PM
- - Supersprynt   Your fine with 10w-30 in the winter. I dont think...   Mar 9, 2006 - 1:25 PM
- - ILuvMyCelica95   Thanks Erik, good to know i'm not ruining my e...   Mar 9, 2006 - 1:27 PM
- - spunky393   Just look at your oil cap on the celi. It says 5w...   Mar 20, 2006 - 9:11 PM
- - Jen   I've always used 10w/30.. even in the winter. ...   Mar 20, 2006 - 9:21 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(Jen @ Mar 20, 2006 - 9:21 PM) ...   Mar 20, 2006 - 9:37 PM
- - Consynx   wow...i'm gonna go buy the thinnest oil over.....   Mar 20, 2006 - 9:44 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(Consynx @ Mar 20, 2006 - 9:44 ...   Mar 20, 2006 - 10:10 PM
- - Jeremiah   I alternate between 5w30 and 10w30. Doesn't re...   Mar 21, 2006 - 4:49 AM


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