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post Mar 20, 2006 - 8:45 PM
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Will any 4a-fe from a 90-93 celica fit in any 90-93 celica?

and have any of you delt or heard of Qualls, Advance, or Cypress Auto Salvage????

thanks a lot, trying to get this project car done and out of my garage.

i looked up 1990 Toyota Celica - Engines on www.car-parts.com

If anybody has a better place for me to look, please let me know, thank you.

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post Mar 21, 2006 - 10:43 PM
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4afe makes a 7afe look like a beast, just get a 7afe
post Mar 21, 2006 - 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Mar 21, 2006 - 10:43 PM) [snapback]411162[/snapback]

4afe makes a 7afe look like a beast, just get a 7afe

theres alot more out there for the 4a e engines. or you can just do a 7afe with high cp pistons for a 4age since they do use the same pistons.


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post Mar 22, 2006 - 1:07 AM
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QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 22, 2006 - 3:53 AM) [snapback]411167[/snapback]

or you can just do a 7afe with high cp pistons for a 4age since they do use the same pistons.

no they don't... but yeah.

A 4AFE is a 4AFE... all the same thing. There are minor differences in some of the early ones (4AF) which were carbed and didn't have points drilled for injectors, and there are a couple of different intake manifolds... but they're pretty much the same. I would look into throwing in a 7AFE instead, and run it on 4AFE electronics if possible.


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post Mar 22, 2006 - 1:48 AM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Mar 22, 2006 - 1:07 AM) [snapback]411228[/snapback]

QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 22, 2006 - 3:53 AM) [snapback]411167[/snapback]

or you can just do a 7afe with high cp pistons for a 4age since they do use the same pistons.

no they don't... but yeah.

A 4AFE is a 4AFE... all the same thing. There are minor differences in some of the early ones (4AF) which were carbed and didn't have points drilled for injectors, and there are a couple of different intake manifolds... but they're pretty much the same. I would look into throwing in a 7AFE instead, and run it on 4AFE electronics if possible.

4afe/4age and the 7afe use the same bore diameter. the pistons from a 4age/4agze fit into a 7afe with out any modification. the only POSSIBLE issue could be deck height with the High CP pistons, however that shouldnt be that much of an issue.


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post Mar 22, 2006 - 9:14 AM
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QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 22, 2006 - 6:48 AM) [snapback]411249[/snapback]

4afe/4age and the 7afe use the same bore diameter. the pistons from a 4age/4agze fit into a 7afe with out any modification. the only POSSIBLE issue could be deck height with the High CP pistons, however that shouldnt be that much of an issue.

Same bore... yes. Pistons are different. The later model 4AG's use 20mm pins, which are similar to the 7AFE, but the 4AGE's rods are full flow, as opposed to the 7AFE's, which are press fit. In other words, the pins are pressed into the Piston on the 4AGE's, and on the 7AFE, the pins are pressed into the rods. They do NOT interchange without modifications because of that. The 4AFE uses 18mm pins, like the older 4AGE's... along with smaller rods, and the smaller crank.


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post Mar 22, 2006 - 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Mar 22, 2006 - 9:14 AM) [snapback]411348[/snapback]

QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 22, 2006 - 6:48 AM) [snapback]411249[/snapback]

4afe/4age and the 7afe use the same bore diameter. the pistons from a 4age/4agze fit into a 7afe with out any modification. the only POSSIBLE issue could be deck height with the High CP pistons, however that shouldnt be that much of an issue.

Same bore... yes. Pistons are different. The later model 4AG's use 20mm pins, which are similar to the 7AFE, but the 4AGE's rods are full flow, as opposed to the 7AFE's, which are press fit. In other words, the pins are pressed into the Piston on the 4AGE's, and on the 7AFE, the pins are pressed into the rods. They do NOT interchange without modifications because of that. The 4AFE uses 18mm pins, like the older 4AGE's... along with smaller rods, and the smaller crank.

well ya learn something new everyday! i had been told they were a direct swap. i guess they would be with aftermarket rods tongue.gif


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Posts in this topic
- spunky393   4a-fe engine help   Mar 20, 2006 - 8:45 PM
- - j0e_p3t   4a-fe engines are weak sauce. they're slower t...   Mar 20, 2006 - 10:40 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(spunky393 @ Mar 21, 2006 - 1:4...   Mar 20, 2006 - 10:53 PM
- - spunky393   what year corolla?   Mar 21, 2006 - 3:54 AM
- - pure_dx   above 1990+ i think, just look at the block, it sh...   Mar 21, 2006 - 10:19 AM
- - Bitter   iirc the prizm GSI has a small port 4age (red top ...   Mar 21, 2006 - 11:58 AM
- - lilsteeg   4afe makes a 7afe look like a beast, just get a 7a...   Mar 21, 2006 - 10:43 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Mar 21, 2006 - 10:4...   Mar 21, 2006 - 10:53 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 22, 2006 - 3:53 A...   Mar 22, 2006 - 1:07 AM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Mar 22, 2006 - 1:07...   Mar 22, 2006 - 1:48 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 22, 2006 - 6:48 A...   Mar 22, 2006 - 9:14 AM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Mar 22, 2006 - 9:14...   Mar 22, 2006 - 10:44 AM
- - lilsteeg   QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 21, 2006 - 10:53 ...   Mar 23, 2006 - 12:05 AM
- - Bitter   QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Mar 23, 2006 - 12:0...   Mar 23, 2006 - 12:10 AM


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